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Re: [802SEC] +++EC Email ballot (closes no later than 25SEP2006)+++ Motion to approve the attached EC SC6 recommendation



I agree that Geoffs changes should be made.

Consider my vote now disapprove.

mike

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Michael Takefman              tak@cisco.com
Distinguished Engineer,       Cisco Systems
Chair IEEE 802.17 Stds WG
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> [mailto:STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Geoff Thompson
> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 4:10 PM
> To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
> Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++EC Email ballot (closes no later 
> than 25SEP2006)+++ Motion to approve the attached EC SC6 
> recommendation
> 
> Paul/Colleagues-
> 
> I have to join Carl and recommend that these slides be DISAPPROVED
> 
> Please examine these points carefully. I believe they are 
> worthy of consideration
> 
> The text, early on (slide 4) says:
>          - * 8802-1 should be modified so that international 
> standardisation can always be achieved ...
> 
> ...which (were there an appropriate WTO case and were I 
> supporting the "other" side) I would take as evidence for 
> presentation to the judging
> body: "Here, the IEEE even admits that they are NOT a lower 
> case international standard unless they are blessed by ISO/IEC.
> 
> I do not think we want to say that
> I do not think that is the case
> I think is not an appropriate position for 802 to take wrt 
> the position that the IEEE-SA takes for its standards.
> 
> Slide 7 statements open a Pandora's box of issues that might 
> well be nurturing to a relationship with SC6.
> 
> Slide 9, last bullet
> Change:
> A potential benefit for 802 of a cooperative relationship 
> with ISO/IEC is that it provides 802 WG's with the option of 
> establishing "international standard" status for an 802.x 
> standard through ISO/IEC using a simple documented 
> cooperation process.
> 
> To:
> A potential benefit for 802 of a cooperative relationship 
> with ISO/IEC is that it provides 802 WG's with the option of 
> widening "international standard" recognition for an 802.x 
> standard through ISO/IEC using a simple documented cooperation process
> 
> Slide 11:
> The title:
> "8802-1 should be modified so that international 
> standardisation can always be achieved ..."
> should be changed per my critique of slide 4 above.
> 
> I support slides 12 through 21
> 
> Please carefully consider these items and reconsider your vote
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Geoff Thompson
> 
> At 04:23 PM 9/19/2006 , Paul Nikolich wrote:
> >Dear EC Members,
> >
> >A revised version of the IEEE 802 recommendation on the 8802-1 and  
> >related documents requested by SC6 is attached for EC approval.
> >
> >Motion: The 802 LMSC EC resolves to adopt the attached SC6 
> >recommendation version 07 dated 19SEP06 (appropriately 
> edited to remove 
> >the "DRAFT" and "Change History" text.)
> >
> >Moved-Tony Jeffree Seconded-Mat Sherman
> >
> >Please cast your vote as soon as possible.  The ballot closes the 
> >earlier of either 25 Sept 2006 or 24 hours after every EC 
> member has cast a vote.
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >--Paul Nikolich
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