Re: [802SEC] +++EC Email ballot (closes no later than 25SEP2006)+++ Motion to approve the attached EC SC6 recommendation
Sure, it can be friendly
mike
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Michael Takefman tak@cisco.com
Distinguished Engineer, Cisco Systems
Chair IEEE 802.17 Stds WG
3000 Innovation Dr, Ottawa, Canada, K2K 3E8
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List *****
> [mailto:STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG] On Behalf Of Paul Nikolich
> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 5:56 PM
> To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
> Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++EC Email ballot (closes no later
> than 25SEP2006)+++ Motion to approve the attached EC SC6
> recommendation
>
> Mike,
>
> Can you change your comment into a 'friendly amendment'? If
> we get Tony and Mat to agree, we have a way to move this forward.
>
> Regards,
>
> --Paul
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Takefman (tak)" <tak@CISCO.COM>
> To: <STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 5:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++EC Email ballot (closes no later
> than 25SEP2006)+++ Motion to approve the attached EC SC6
> recommendation
>
>
> >I agree that Geoffs changes should be made.
> >
> > Consider my vote now disapprove.
> >
> > mike
> >
> > -------------------------------------------
> >
> > Michael Takefman tak@cisco.com
> > Distinguished Engineer, Cisco Systems
> > Chair IEEE 802.17 Stds WG
> > 3000 Innovation Dr, Ottawa, Canada, K2K 3E8
> > voice: 613-254-3399 cell:613-220-6991
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List *****
> >> [mailto:STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Geoff Thompson
> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 4:10 PM
> >> To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
> >> Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++EC Email ballot (closes no later than
> >> 25SEP2006)+++ Motion to approve the attached EC SC6 recommendation
> >>
> >> Paul/Colleagues-
> >>
> >> I have to join Carl and recommend that these slides be DISAPPROVED
> >>
> >> Please examine these points carefully. I believe they are
> worthy of
> >> consideration
> >>
> >> The text, early on (slide 4) says:
> >> - * 8802-1 should be modified so that international
> >> standardisation can always be achieved ...
> >>
> >> ...which (were there an appropriate WTO case and were I supporting
> >> the "other" side) I would take as evidence for presentation to the
> >> judging
> >> body: "Here, the IEEE even admits that they are NOT a lower case
> >> international standard unless they are blessed by ISO/IEC.
> >>
> >> I do not think we want to say that
> >> I do not think that is the case
> >> I think is not an appropriate position for 802 to take wrt the
> >> position that the IEEE-SA takes for its standards.
> >>
> >> Slide 7 statements open a Pandora's box of issues that
> might well be
> >> nurturing to a relationship with SC6.
> >>
> >> Slide 9, last bullet
> >> Change:
> >> A potential benefit for 802 of a cooperative relationship with
> >> ISO/IEC is that it provides 802 WG's with the option of
> establishing
> >> "international standard" status for an 802.x standard
> through ISO/IEC
> >> using a simple documented cooperation process.
> >>
> >> To:
> >> A potential benefit for 802 of a cooperative relationship with
> >> ISO/IEC is that it provides 802 WG's with the option of widening
> >> "international standard" recognition for an 802.x standard through
> >> ISO/IEC using a simple documented cooperation process
> >>
> >> Slide 11:
> >> The title:
> >> "8802-1 should be modified so that international
> standardisation can
> >> always be achieved ..."
> >> should be changed per my critique of slide 4 above.
> >>
> >> I support slides 12 through 21
> >>
> >> Please carefully consider these items and reconsider your vote
> >>
> >> Sincerely,
> >>
> >> Geoff Thompson
> >>
> >> At 04:23 PM 9/19/2006 , Paul Nikolich wrote:
> >> >Dear EC Members,
> >> >
> >> >A revised version of the IEEE 802 recommendation on the
> 8802-1 and
> >> >related documents requested by SC6 is attached for EC approval.
> >> >
> >> >Motion: The 802 LMSC EC resolves to adopt the attached SC6
> >> >recommendation version 07 dated 19SEP06 (appropriately
> >> edited to remove
> >> >the "DRAFT" and "Change History" text.)
> >> >
> >> >Moved-Tony Jeffree Seconded-Mat Sherman
> >> >
> >> >Please cast your vote as soon as possible. The ballot closes the
> >> >earlier of either 25 Sept 2006 or 24 hours after every EC
> >> member has cast a vote.
> >> >
> >> >Regards,
> >> >
> >> >--Paul Nikolich
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