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Re: [802SEC] RE: [802SEC] +++EC Email ballot (closes no later than 25SEP2006)+++ Motion to approve the attached EC SC6 recommendation



G'day Andrew,

I believe I indicated in my message after Geoff's, where I switched my vote
back to disapprove, that if Geoff's issues were resolved as he asked I would
re-flip my vote to APPROVE.

Regards,
Carl
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Myles (amyles) [mailto:amyles@cisco.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 9:04 PM
To: wk3c@wk3c.com; Geoff Thompson; STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
Subject: RE: [802SEC] RE: [802SEC] +++EC Email ballot (closes no later than
25SEP2006)+++ Motion to approve the attached EC SC6 recommendation

G'day Carl,

I responded to Geoff's suggestions with a new version (attached). Geoff has
not yet confirmed it, but I believe his comments have now been resolved (I
hope so anyway). Do you the modifications satisfy you?

Andrew 

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org [mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org]
On Behalf Of Carl R. Stevenson
Sent: Thursday, 21 September 2006 8:03 AM
To: 'Geoff Thompson'; STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
Subject: [802SEC] RE: [802SEC] +++EC Email ballot (closes no later than
25SEP2006)+++ Motion to approve the attached EC SC6 recommendation

Colleagues,

Sorry ... But upon reviewing Geoff's comments I have to agree with the
points he makes (some of which I hadn't viewed in the same light until
Geoff's comments.

Therefore, I feel that I have to change my previous approve to DISAPPROVE.
If Geoff's comments are satisfied I will change my vote back to approve.

I would have responded to Geoff's comments sooner, but for the time offset
here in Australia.

Carl
 

-----Original Message-----
From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List *****
[mailto:STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Geoff Thompson
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 4:10 PM
To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++EC Email ballot (closes no later than 25SEP2006)+++
Motion to approve the attached EC SC6 recommendation

Paul/Colleagues-

I have to join Carl and recommend that these slides be DISAPPROVED

Please examine these points carefully. I believe they are worthy of
consideration

The text, early on (slide 4) says:
         - . 8802-1 should be modified so that international standardisation
can always be achieved ...

...which (were there an appropriate WTO case and were I supporting the
"other" side) I would take as evidence for presentation to the judging
body: "Here, the IEEE even admits that they are NOT a lower case
international standard unless they are blessed by ISO/IEC.

I do not think we want to say that
I do not think that is the case
I think is not an appropriate position for 802 to take wrt the position that
the IEEE-SA takes for its standards.

Slide 7 statements open a Pandora's box of issues that might well be
nurturing to a relationship with SC6.

Slide 9, last bullet
Change:
A potential benefit for 802 of a cooperative relationship with ISO/IEC is
that it provides 802 WG's with the option of establishing "international
standard" status for an 802.x standard through ISO/IEC using a simple
documented cooperation process.

To:
A potential benefit for 802 of a cooperative relationship with ISO/IEC is
that it provides 802 WG's with the option of widening "international
standard" recognition for an 802.x standard through ISO/IEC using a simple
documented cooperation process

Slide 11:
The title:
"8802-1 should be modified so that international standardisation can always
be achieved ..."
should be changed per my critique of slide 4 above.

I support slides 12 through 21

Please carefully consider these items and reconsider your vote

Sincerely,

Geoff Thompson

At 04:23 PM 9/19/2006 , Paul Nikolich wrote:
>Dear EC Members,
>
>A revised version of the IEEE 802 recommendation on the 8802-1 and 
>related documents requested by SC6 is attached for EC approval.
>
>Motion: The 802 LMSC EC resolves to adopt the attached SC6 
>recommendation version 07 dated 19SEP06 (appropriately edited to remove

>the "DRAFT" and "Change History" text.)
>
>Moved-Tony Jeffree Seconded-Mat Sherman
>
>Please cast your vote as soon as possible.  The ballot closes the 
>earlier of either 25 Sept 2006 or 24 hours after every EC member has 
>cast a
vote.
>
>Regards,
>
>--Paul Nikolich
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