Re: [802SEC] January 2008 Pacific Rim Interim-response needed
Though I, like Pat, don't have working group that I represent at the EC I
do share her opinions on this topic. Apart from Vancouver I have seen
little value in 802 hosted interims and they seem to be distracting us from
what I feel should be the primary focus of our task as the EC, positioning
802 itself as International.
My guess is that 802 hosted interims will just be confusing to both any
incoming constituency and our current constituency. For new folks it will
confuse them as to what is an interim vs. what is a plenary. For the
existing folks it will look like we (as 802) are trying to make all
meetings the same.
Except perhaps for a situation similar to the reason for the Vancouver
interim, I expect to speak against any new IEEE 802 hosted interims.
At 10:40 AM 11/22/2006 , Pat Thaler wrote:
>I am opposed to IEEE 802 hosting this interim or pretty much any other
>interim. I think the first time IEEE 802 hosted an interim, it was in
>Vancouver where it was done because we hadn't met our room night quota
>at the plenary. Hosting the interim was done because it got us off the
>hook for an extra charge - I think that was okay but it shouldn't have
>been a precedent for doing other hosted interims.
>I don't think a hosted non-North American interim makes us look any more
>international. Our working groups have been able to do plenty of non-NA
>meetings without IEEE 802 hosting. Last year IEEE 802.1 met in both
>China and England. Next year, both 802.1 and 802.3 are scheduled to meet
>in Switzerland. This is fairly typical of our other Working Groups.
>An IEEE 802 hosted interim just takes planning time and attention that
>could be spent on arranging a non-NA plenary. If London is any measure,
>it will also impact our ability to fund a non-NA plenary. We are already
>scheduled out on plenaries through 2008, but now is the time to be
>working on a non-NA venue for a 2009 plenary - not an interim.
>I also agree with John Barr's comments about Pacific rim locations.
>Locations such as China, Japan or Korea would put us closer to most of
>our Pacific rim attendees. Additionally, meeting in Australia after
>London sends the message that we are quite willing to host outside NA as
>long as the local language is English and the culture is Western.
>Except perhaps for a situation similar to the reason for the Vancouver
>interim, I expect I will vote against any new IEEE 802 hosted interims.
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>[mailto:STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Bob Heile
>Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 8:17 AM
>Subject: [802SEC] January 2008 Pacific Rim Interim-response needed
>Given that we did not have an opportunity to complete the discussion at
>Friday's meeting, I need you to get back to me (no later than close of
>business Nov 28) with answers to the following two questions. If I do
>not hear from you, I will assume the answer is no. You can assume that
>Pacific Rim locations will be at least as expensive as London in terms
>of registration fees if not more so. Room rates should be substantially
>less and more on a par with US locations. Every effort will be made to
>keep costs down.
>1. Would you bring your WG to an interim in Sydney in Jan 2008?
>2. If you answer to the first question is no, would a location
>elsewhere in the Pacific Rim change your answer?
>Based on the number of yes responses to the first question, I will see
>if it possible to put together a workable session with the interested
>groups for review.
>Bob Heile, Ph.D
>Chairman, ZigBee Alliance
>Chair, IEEE 802.15 Working Group on Wireless Personal Area Networks
>11 Louis Road
>Attleboro, MA 02703 USA
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