Re: [802SEC] RE: [802SEC] FW: [802SEC] Standards Coordinating Committee on Dynamic Spectrum Access Networks
I second Steve's Motion.
Carl
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> From: owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org
> [mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Shellhammer, Steve
> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 6:39 PM
> To: Paul Nikolich; STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
> Subject: [802SEC] RE: [802SEC] FW: [802SEC] Standards
> Coordinating Committee on Dynamic Spectrum Access Networks
>
> Paul,
>
> Here you go.
>
> I move the following text be sent in a letter from Paul
> Nikolich to the IEEE Computer Society.
>
> (I have also attached a Word document with the exact same text).
>
> I will call Carl and see if he is willing to second the motion.
>
> Steve
>
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>
> The IEEE 802 executive committee recommends that the Computer
> Society not become a sponsor of the proposed standards
> coordinating committee on dynamic spectrum access networks.
>
> In addition the IEEE 802 executive committee recommends the
> Computer Society forward the following comments to the IEEE
> 1900 steering committee and the IEEE Standards Board, on
> behalf of IEEE 802.
>
>
> IEEE 802 appreciates that some future wireless standards will
> incorporate dynamic spectrum access technologies. In fact,
> IEEE 802 has a working group (802.22) developing a standard
> for unlicensed broadband access operation on geographically
> unused channels in the television bands, which incorporates
> dynamic spectrum access technologies. IEEE 802's only
> concern regarding the establishment of a standards
> coordination committee (SCC) on dynamic spectrum access networks
> (DySPAN) is any potential conflict between the SCC and
> activities, both present and future, within IEEE 802.
>
> The IEEE 802 organization has a long history of development
> of wireless networking standards. There are currently six
> wireless working groups and two wireless technical advisory
> committees (TAGs) within IEEE 802.
> If a SCC on DySPAN were to be established the IEEE 802
> leadership needs to be assured that the existence of such a
> SCC would not preclude IEEE
> 802 from initiating and running new wireless projects within
> IEEE 802 which may incorporate dynamic spectrum access technologies.
>
> IEEE 802 has always been the place within the IEEE for
> standardizing wired and wireless networking standards, and we
> believe that fundamental networking standards are best
> handled within IEEE 802. We are sure there are many
> additional standards developments that can be covered in the
> DySPAN SCC which will not conflict with the fundamental
> wireless networking standards being developed within IEEE 802.
>
> In summary, IEEE 802 is fine with the establishment of the
> SCC on DySPAN as long as the scope of work does not conflict
> with the work done in IEEE 802.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Nikolich [mailto:paul.nikolich@att.net]
> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 3:17 PM
> To: Shellhammer, Steve; STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
> Subject: Re: [802SEC] FW: [802SEC] Standards Coordinating
> Committee on Dynamic Spectrum Access Networks
>
> Steve,
>
> I just re-read the inquiry from the CS-SAB Chair. It said:
> "If LMSC/802
>
> wishes to formalize their involvement, then IEEE-CS should be
> the 3rd Society join with this SCC with ComSoc & EMC."
>
> Based on the responses I've seen from the EC on the draft
> response letter, I think it is safe to assume LMSC is not
> interested in becoming formally involved with the SCC.
> Furthermore LMSC is not a 'society', the Computer Society is,
> and I would not recommend CS become involved with the SCC.
>
> Regardless, I would prefer to have an EC decision via motion
> regarding this matter, it would include approving your draft
> text and making a recommendation against formally engaging
> with the proposed SCC. Please prepare text for a motion,
> obtain a second and I'll run an EC email ballot.
>
> Regards,
>
> --Paul
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Shellhammer, Steve" <sshellha@QUALCOMM.COM>
> To: <STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org>
> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 3:22 PM
> Subject: [802SEC] FW: [802SEC] Standards Coordinating
> Committee on Dynamic Spectrum Access Networks
>
>
> Paul,
>
> I just wanted to send you a reminder about this. I have
> incorporated the suggested edits. When we first talked about
> this you made an off-the-cuff comment about running an
> electronic ballot about this. I don't know if that is
> necessary, but if you feel it is I suggest you start it right
> away, since the Computer Society has asked for a response by
> February 13.
>
> Regards,
> Steve
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List *****
> [mailto:STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Shellhammer, Steve
> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 12:20 PM
> To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
> Subject: Re: [802SEC] Standards Coordinating Committee on
> Dynamic Spectrum Access Networks
>
> Carl,
>
>
>
> Thank you for your comments, which I have incorporated
> in to revision 1 (attached).
>
>
>
> Does anyone else have any additional comment?
>
>
>
> If not, then Paul can send this to the Computer
> Society. Paul, you may want to format it into a letter from
> you to the appropriate person in the Computer Society.
>
>
>
> Steve
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List *****
> [mailto:STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Carl R. Stevenson
> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 4:34 AM
> To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
> Subject: Re: [802SEC] Standards Coordinating Committee on
> Dynamic Spectrum Access Networks
>
>
>
> Dear all,
>
>
>
> I have attached a couple of suggested changes to Steve's
> document with my
>
> initials appended to the filename.
>
>
>
> My main concern is that we not get into repeating situations
> similar to the
>
> one we had with a project that overlaps the scope of 802.3.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Carl
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org [mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org]
> On
>
> Behalf Of Shellhammer, Steve
>
> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 3:09 PM
>
> To: STDS-802-SEC@IEEE.ORG
>
> Subject: [802SEC] Standards Coordinating Committee on Dynamic Spectrum
>
> Access Networks
>
>
>
> EC Members,
>
>
>
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>
> The IEEE 1900 standards group has proposed the
> formation of a
>
> Standards Coordinating Committee (SCC) on dynamic spectrum
> access networks
>
> (DySPAN). This is a new field of wireless networks in which
> an unlicensed
>
> system dynamically utilized spectrum unused by licensed
> wireless systems.
>
> The first example of this technology will be the unlicensed
> used of unused
>
> TV bands. This is what is being standardized within IEEE 802.22.
>
>
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>
> Paul received information on this proposal (see
> attached) from
>
> John Walz and Kathy Land of the Computer Society. We have
> been asked to
>
> submit any comments we have to the computer society by February 13.
>
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>
>
> Paul and Carl and I exchanged a few email and
> Carl and I spoke
>
> about this. Paul wanted someone to craft some text for our
> comments on this
>
> proposed SCC. So I have drafted some initial comments, which
> are attached.
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>
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>
>
>
> Please review these comments and send any edits
> or any other
>
> comments you have to the EC reflector. I will attempt to capture the
>
> consensus of the feedback and will revise the comments accordingly.
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> Thanks,
>
>
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> Steve
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