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Re: [802SEC] Liaison from ITU-R WP 8F to IEEE and WiMax Forum re Rec. M.1457



Paul,

This is an interesting observation. The IEEE contribution of 21  
November says "IEEE herewith proposes a new terrestrial radio  
interface..." Note also that Attachment 1 of the IEEE contribution  
identifies the "proponent" as the IEEE 802.16 Working Group on  
Broadband Wireless Access. A later WiMAX Forum contribution, of 22  
December, references the IEEE contribution and says: "The WiMAX Forum  
hereby respectfully submits supporting material to complement the  
IEEE's submission."

I hesitate to characterize the thinking of the group regarding the  
language. However, it's worth noting that the detailed proposal  
process (which uses the word "proponent") does require some specific  
supporting content. Some such material was included in the the WiMAX  
Forum contribution but not in the IEEE contribution. Hence, while  
IEEE proposed the interface, one could argue that the proposal  
package, in a broader sense, would be incomplete without the  
supporting material.

Roger



On Feb 13, 2007, at 04:48 PM, Paul Nikolich wrote:

> Mike, Roger,
>
> The liaison from ITU-R WP8F states:
> " Issues regarding Document 8F/1065 (from IEEE)
>  Attachment 1: ITU-R WP 8F considers the proponent for this  
> submission to be "IEEE 802.16 Working Group on Broadband Wireless  
> Access" and the "WiMax-Forum". Please confirm with an update to  
> relevant Attachment 2 of 8/LCCE/47 "
>
> This statement is perplexing to me.  The document (the IEEE 802  
> contribution identified as 8F/1065 by WP8F) unambiguously states  
> that the contribution was developed by IEEE 802.  Why would WP 8F  
> consider the proponent of the submission to be anything other than  
> exclusively IEEE 802?  Perhaps I don't understand the subtleties of  
> the term 'proponent' as used by the ITU-R WP 8F.  Roger--if you  
> were at the WP-8F meeting, you may be the best position to explain.
>
> Regards,
>
> --Paul
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Lynch"  
> <mjlynch@NORTEL.COM>
> To: <STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 4:42 PM
> Subject: [802SEC] FW: Liaison from ITU-R WP 8F to IEEE and WiMax  
> Forum re Rec. M.1457
>
>
> Dear EC members,
>
> Please find enclosed a liaison from ITU-R WP8F. In it they are asking
> for a response regarding an input from IEEE 802 to their January
> meeting. That document (Doc. 8F/1065-E) titled "PROPOSED NEW IMT-2000
> TERRESTRIAL RADIO INTERFACE INTENDED FOR INCLUSION IN RECOMMENDATION
> ITU-R M.1457" which was approved during the IEEE 802 November plenary,
> is attached for reference.
>
> I propose that a response be developed by 802.16 and 802.18 during the
> March plenary. The next meeting of ITU-R WP8F begins 23 May in  
> Japan and
> there will not be sufficient time after the May interim to review and
> approve a response..
>
> Regards,
>
> Mike
>
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> ________________________________
>
> From: colin.langtry@itu.int [mailto:colin.langtry@itu.int]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 13:25
> To: Lynch, Michael (RICH1:2H50); rmarks@nextwave.com;
> ronald.j.resnick@intel.com
> Cc: Stephen.blust@cingular.com
> Subject: Liaison from ITU-R WP 8F to IEEE and WiMax Forum re Rec. M. 
> 1457
>
>
>
> Please find attached a liaison statement approved by ITU-R Working  
> Party
> 8F at its meeting on 17-25 January 2007.
>
> I would appreciate it if you could forward it to the appropriate  
> groups
> within your organization.
>
>
>
> Yours sincerely,
>
> Colin Langtry
> Counsellor, Study Group 8
> Radiocommunication Bureau
>
> email: colin.langtry @itu.int
> phone: +41 22 730 6178
>
>
>
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