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Re: [802SEC] [802SEC] ex-officio request



Carl-

Ex-officio does not mean "non-voting". Rather it means being a member by 
virtue of holding an office.

Please see:
	http://www.bartleby.com/cgi-bin/texis/webinator/ahdsearch?search_type=enty&; 
http://www.bartleby.com/cgi-bin/texis/webinator/ahdsearch?search_type=enty&q 
uery=ex-officio&db=ahd&Submit=Search
or	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exempli_gratia#E

The Vice President of the United States is ex officio President of the Senate.

I would not count him either in the numerator or denominator of a quorum count.

Geoff

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At 03:56 PM 7/17/2007 , Carl R. Stevenson wrote:
I agree with Tony ... Ex officio means "non-voting."

My only concern with granting Paul voting rights in my WG is that he
normally doesn't attend interims and would count against quorum absent some
special provisions.

Carl


 > -----Original Message-----
 > From: owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org
 > [mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Tony Jeffree
 > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 5:32 PM
 > To: Paul Nikolich
 > Cc: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
 > Subject: Re: [802SEC] [802SEC] ex-officio request
 >
 > Paul -
 >
 > I don't believe there is a problem granting you voting membership in
 > each WG/TAG - the current P&P allow Chairs to do that. However,
 > current P&P don't have a concept of an "ex-officio member" or what
 > properties might be associated with it.
 >
 > Regards,
 > Tony
 >
 > At 18:17 17/07/2007, Paul Nikolich wrote:
 > >All,
 > >
 > >Some of you have asked what my motivation to be given ex-officio
 > >status in your group is.  My motiviation is as follows--my duties as
 > >802 Chair do not allow me to attend WG sessions on a regular enough
 > >basis to acheive membership status the usual way, hence I am not a
 > >member of any group.  Does this mean I am not a member of LMSC? An
 > >odd situation I'm trying to resolve via the ex-officio
 > >mechanism.  Also I wish to have the ability to vote on WG or TAG
 > >matters when I do have the time to understand the issue under
 > >consideration and weigh in on via a vote.
 > >
 > >Regards,
 > >
 > >--Paul
 > >
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