[802SEC] FW: [802SEC] preliminary tally +++Motion to amend March 2009 venue from Rome IT to Vancouver BC+++urgent--please cast your vote quickly+++open: 26NOV07
Not wanting to start any comments on this issue, especially as others who are more eloquent have already had some
lengthy debates. I would like to give some rational first.
Based on the facts that the survey that was posted to all attendees at the Atlanta Plenary session by the EC, as well as
posted directly on the 802.11 WG reflector, all of the 802.11 WG participants and membership had the opportunity to
provide input. The 802.11 participants in the poll responded to the poll with the following results 48(Rome), 65
(Vancouver), and 1 Abstain.
On January 13th, 2005, the Executive Committee email ballot motion "... that beginning calendar year 2008, at least one
802 plenary session shall be held outside of North America in each calendar year" passed. This directed that
International plenary venues are to be sought, with emphasis on Non-North American locations. The future meeting
locations that are now posted up through the end of 2010 have NO Non-North American destinations. In fact the EC has
been debating other locations for the coming years for some time now but has not been given a document showing the
locations being discussed for reference, possibly an oversight.
The 802.11 Working Group over many meetings have concluded that we are an international organization with international
representation and have provided international locations in our interim meetings. We, the Executive Committee, must
therefore be responsive to this fact. What is my Working Group membership to think if the EC ignores these facts?
With reference to the locations debate, more information came to light after the Friday closing Executive Committee
meeting's presentations and motion. In fact, most of the new information came via the lively email debates. It was
revealed that Rome, with its limited amenities locally, meeting room sizes, accommodation, cost, not to mention "Mad
Dogs" was not an ideal location. The latter, of course ("Mad Dogs"), I may well have been able to live with, especially
as "Mad Dogs and Englishmen go out in the mid-day Sun".
Vancouver, on the other hand, is a venue which is a known location, across two hotels closely located but is NOT
I would like to remind you of an incident in the past which forced us to provide Vancouver as a meeting location. This
was due to multiple accommodation options at lower cost for attendees that lead to a major deficit in room nights
therefore we did not meet our commitments at the official hotels.
This now leads me onto my vote. With the above considerations and other information now available, I am now disposed to
vote approve, due to the limited options presented.
Stuart J. Kerry
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From: Paul Nikolich [mailto:paul.nikolich@ATT.NET]
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 6:58 AM
Subject: [802SEC] preliminary tally +++Motion to amend March 2009 venue from Rome IT to Vancouver BC+++urgent--please
cast your vote quickly+++open: 26NOV07
Dear EC members,
The preliminary tally as of 28NOV07 on the below motion is 10APP, 2DIS, 0ABS, 4DNV.
Please let me know if I recorded your vote incorrectly. Please cast your vote if you haven't already.
Vote categories: DIS DNV APP ABS
01 Mat Sherman. APP
02 Pat Thaler. APP
03 Buzz Rigsbee. APP
04 Bob O'Hara. DIS
05 John Hawkins. APP
06 Tony Jeffree. APP
07 Bob Grow. APP
08 Stuart Kerry DNV
09 Bob Heile DNV
10 Roger Marks. APP
11 John Lemon. DIS
12 Mike Lynch DNV
13 Steve Shellhammer. APP
14 Arnie Greenspan. APP
15 Vivek Gupta DNV
16 Carl Stevenson. APP
17 Geoff Thompson (non voting, but supportive).
18 Paul Nikolich (non voting chair).
TOTALS DIS DNV APP ABS
2 4 10 0
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Nikolich" <paul.nikolich@ATT.NET>
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 1:56 PM
Subject: [802SEC] +++Motion to amend March 2009 venue from Rome IT to Vancouver BC+++urgent--please cast your vote
> Dear EC members,
> Since LMSC does not have any commitments that are impossible to undo the
> below motion is in order. Buzz requested a quick resolution to this ballot
> (under 3 days) because the potential venues need a commitment from 802 soon,
> please cast your ballot as quickly as possible.
> The ballot opens 2pm ET Monday 26NOV 2007 and closes the earlier of 2pm ET
> 6DEC 2007 or 24 hours after all eligible EC members have cast a vote.
> The motion under consideration:
> Moved Thaler, Second Grow: Motion to amend the "previously adopted motion"
> to replace "Rome" with "Vancouver".
> "the previously adopted motion" = "Motion to approve the selection of Rome,
> Italy as the venue for the March 2009 Plenary Session", 8/6/1 Passed
> (this is from item 10.02 nNA Plenary venue survey results and final venue
> selection at the closing EC meeting.)
> Therefore the text under consideration is:
> "Motion to approve the selection of Vancouver, B.C. Canada as the venue for
> the March 2009 Plenary Session"*.
> *note: I replaced the word "Italy" with "B.C. Canada" as an editorial
> correction to the motion to amend
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