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[802SEC] Buzz's Role


Because my previous subject line of "Why Buzz" got co-opted for
other purposes, I'm going to try tackling the same thing again with a
new subject line .

I take the extract below from your response to basically be saying "Buzz
is doing this work instead of having it done by FTF or another external
organization because an external organization will cost $100K and won't
do any better." Am I interpreting this correctly? Should I also
interpret your response to be answering my question about whether
you are doing something that we are already paying FTF to do, with the
answer being that we don't pay for FTF to arrange meeting logistics?

As I sense that you are feeling a bit put upon recently, please note that
this is not a personal attack, but an attempt to try to understand how
our meeting logistics planning works.


On 12/3/2007 5:50 PM, Rigsbee, Everett O wrote:
> [...]
> Also if you'll remember we had an arrangement with Mary Russell of
> Hamilton Group Meeting Planners (HGMP) to find us some nNA venues for
> our January 2007 802-hosted Interim.  After a year and a half we came
> out with exactly 1 venue (the London Metropole, which we already knew
> about) and the cost for that service was $75K plus the $25K we paid in
> penalties, so another $100K down the pooper for a site that nobody
> liked.  And Mary Russell has great credentials for nNA venues, but as
> she says we are either too big or too poor to be able to do this on our
> own.  We need some hosting organizations to get better (more affordable)
> deals. 
> [...]

in response to:

> > I don't understand why Buzz has been having to do the work on meeting
> > logistics. Isn't this part of what we pay FTF to do? If it is, let's let
> > them do their job. Or, if it isn't, why isn't it? Wouldn't it make sense
> > to pay to have this done for us by professionals instead of either
> > dumping the load on Buzz or having all of us amateurs try to quickly
> > learn the business of huge meeting booking?
> >
> > If making large nNA meeting arrangements is beyond the expertise of FTF,
> > maybe we could issue a separate contract for booking these, or maybe FTF
> > could subcontract this out to arrangers in Europe and Asia? I'd rather
> > the latter, as I'd prefer to have a consistent point of contact for us.
> > And I'd hate to lose all the expertise that FTF has about what we need
> > and desire.
> >
> > jl
> >
> > On 12/3/2007 6:04 AM, Tony Jeffree wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I repeat, I would like for *us all* to truly focus on the problem.
> > > Buzz is a volunteer, just like the rest of us; this isn't his only
> > > job. And there is a limit to what one person can do in a situation
> > > where we are attempting to do something that is new for the
> > > organisation and may not necessarily conform to the way business is
> > > routinely done in NA. He doesn't need us making more rods for his
> > > back; what he needs is practical help and support. Lets start doing
> > > that.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Tony

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