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[802SEC] FW: RE: [802SEC] FW: RE: [802SEC] +++10 day Ballot+++opensMarc06Closes March16



All:

On the chance that Pat was not the only one that did not get the latest voting proceedure, it is attached.
Arnie
-------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- 
From: "Pat Thaler" <pthaler@broadcom.com> 
To: greenspana@BELLSOUTH.NET 
Subject: RE: [802SEC] FW: RE: [802SEC] +++10 day Ballot+++opensMarc06Closes March16 
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:27:32 +0000 


Nothing was attached. Pat 

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Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 7:47 AM 
To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG 
Subject: [802SEC] FW: RE: [802SEC] +++10 day Ballot+++opensMarc06Closes 
March16 

All: 
Pat has pointed out that I negleted to add some editorial changes 
suggested by Geoff that add clarity. I have attached the voting 
proceedure including the editorial clarificatrions for your review. 
The status of the current vote is as follows: 
Ch: Paul Nikolich - DNV 
ES: Buzz Rigsbee - Approve 
RS: Bob O'Hara - Approve 
TR: John Hawkins - Approve 
01: Tony Jeffree - Approve 
15: Bob Heile - Approve 
17: John Lemon - Approve 
18: Mike Lynch - Approve 
20: Arnie Greenspan- Approve 








Dear EC Members, 

The 802 Chair, Paul Nikolich, has delegated the conduct of the following 
motion via 802 EC email ballot to me, Arnie Greenspan. 

Moved: The Unconflicted 802 EC members approve the attached voting 
procedure to be used for 802.20 WG officer selection during the March 
2008 Plenary. 
Opens: 06 MAR 2008; Closes 16 MAR2008 

Mover: Arnie Greenspan 
Seconder: Buzz Rigsbee 

Unconflicted EC (UC EC) members regarding 802.20 WG matters are eligible 
to cast a ballot on this issue. 

UC EC Voters: 
---------------- 
CH Paul Nikolich 
ES Buzz Rigsbee 
RS Bob O'Hara 
TR John Hawkins 
01 Tony Jeffree 
15 Bob Heile 
17 John Lemon 
18 Mike Lynch 
20 Arnie Greenspan 
ME Geoff Thompson non-voting 

EC members not eligible to vote: 
-------------------------------- 
V1 Mat Sherman 
V2 Pat Thaler 
03 Bob Grow 
11 Stuart Kerry 
16 Roger Marks 
19 Steve Shellhammer 
21 Vivek Gupta 
22 Carl Stevenson 





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From: "Pat Thaler" 
To: greenspana@bellsouth.net 
Cc: paul.nikolich@att.net 
Subject: RE: [802SEC] +++10 day Ballot+++opensMarc06Closes March16 
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:15:34 +0000 


Arnie, 

I saw that you made the change to item 4 that answered the question 
Geoff asked in his email. I think you missed that he also attached a 
copy of the procedure with editorial changes. For example in item 1 he 
changed "membership" to "individual members". I think his changes added 
clarity without changing the content. 

I have attached a copy of the file he sent with his mark-ups. 

Pat 





From: greenspana@bellsouth.net [mailto:greenspana@bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 10:38 AM 
To: Pat Thaler 
Cc: paul.nikolich@att.net 
Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++10 day Ballot+++opensMarc06Closes March16 


Hi Pat: 

If you will check item 4 on the attached proceedure I think that you 
will find that I did include all of Geoff's suggestions. The membership 
roll call is now called a survey ond the word open is included to 
explain how the survey will be done. 

Arnie 
-------------- Original message from "Pat Thaler" 
: -------------- 


> Arnie, 
> 
> The attachment doesn't appear to have the changes Geoff suggested. It 
> addresses the question Geoff asked in his email but he had also 
attached 
> a draft with mark-ups, mainly inserting "individual." His changes were 

> editorial and improved clarity IMO. 
> 
> Pat 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List ***** 
> [mailto:STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG] On Behalf Of 
> greenspana@BELLSOUTH.NET 
> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 12:50 PM 
> To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG 
> Subject: [802SEC] +++10 day Ballot+++opensMarc06Closes March16 
> 
> All: 
> 
> I have made the changes suggested by Geoff and it is shown in the 
> attachmant. 
> 
> I vote approve on the motion. 
> 
> Arnie 
> -------------- Original message from "Geoff Thompson" 
> : 
> -------------- 
> 
> 
> > Arnie/Colleagues- 
> > 
> > I have provided some minor editorial augmentation to the proposed 
> procedure 
> > text to try to make sure that the text is as unambiguous as 
possible. 
> I 
> > don't believe that anything that I did changed Arnie's intended 
> meaning. 
> > That certainly was not the intent. 
> > 
> > Arnie, in addition to the provided text, you mentioned in our 
> conference 
> > calls that it was your intention to conduct the "Straw Poll" portion 

> of the 
> > procedure by secret ballot. In your procedure you say that: 
> > "This vote (sic, it is not a vote) will be by roll call." 
> > Which could easily be interpreted as being a fully open process. 
> > 
> > Therefore, I strongly suggest that you make your procedure more 
> specific, 
> > that is, you should add text that says one of the following things: 
> > 1) The roll call "survey" (use your own favorite word here, but I 
> > would discourage the use of the word "vote") will take place by 
> submission 
> > of secret paper ballots. 
> > 2) The roll call survey will take place via an open roll call 
> > voice survey by the chair 
> > 3) The methodology and secrecy of the roll call process will be at 
> > the discretion of the chair. 
> > 
> > I hope that all of this, once Arnie makes the appropriate choice 
above 
> and 
> > modifies the text accordingly can be done in the context of a 
friendly 
> 
> > amendment. 
> > 
> > Best regards, 
> > 
&g t; > Geoff Thompson 
> > 
> > At 12:30 PM 3/6/2008 , greenspana@BELLSOUTH.NET wrote: 
> > >Dear EC Members, 
> > > 
> > >The 802 Chair, Paul Nikolich, has delegated the conduct of the 
> following 
> > >motion via 802 EC email ballot to me, Arnie Greenspan. 
> > > 
> > >Moved: The Unconflicted 802 EC members approve the attached voting 
> > >procedure to be used for 802.20 WG officer selection during the 
March 
> 2008 
> > >Plenary. 
> > >Opens: 06 MAR 2008; Closes 16 MAR2008 
> > > 
> > >Mover: Arnie Greenspan 
> > >Seconder: Buzz Rigsbee 
> > > 
> > >Unconflicted EC (UC EC) members regarding 802.20 WG matters are 
> eligible 
> > >to cast a ballot on this issue. 
> > > 
> > >UC EC Voters: 
> > >---------------- 
> > > CH Paul Nikolich 
> > >ES Buzz Rigsbee 
> > >RS Bob O'Hara 
> > >TR John Hawkins 
> > >01 Tony Jeffree 
> > >15 Bob Heile 
> > >17 John Lemon 
> > >18 Mike Lynch 
> > >20 Arnie Greenspan 
> > >ME Geoff Thompson non-voting 
> > > 
> > >EC members not eligible to vote: 
> > >-------------------------------- 
> > >V1 Mat Sherman 
> > >V2 Pat Thaler 
> > >03 Bob Grow 
> > >11 Stuart Kerry 
> > >16 Roger Marks 
> > >19 Steve Shellhammer 
> > >21 Vivek Gupta 
> > >22 Carl Stevenson 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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reflector. 
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> > 
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