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Hi Carl, As usual, you make very good points. However there is another side to James' proposal that may be worth some consideration. Any time you have 1500 laptop computers in one place for a week, there will always be some number of them that will decide that an IEEE meeting is the perfect place to roll over and die. To those poor souls with dead computers, the availability of a few walk up workstations in an IEEE Internet Cafe is priceless. Many groups of our size (e.g. IETF & ICANN) offer this benefit to its attendees with great satisfaction. Thanks, Rick Alfvin Vice Chair IEEE 802.15 Working Group 503 907-1419 [voice] 503 961-7189 [fax] 503 415-1681 [cell] email@example.com On Mar 21, 2008, at 2:36 AM, Carl R. Stevenson wrote: > Comments in line below ... > > Carl > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: firstname.lastname@example.org >> [mailto:email@example.com] On Behalf Of James Gilb >> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 10:39 PM >> To: 802 SEC >> Subject: [802SEC] Items for discussion at the closing plenary >> >> All >> >> As a result of our attendance automation meeting, there are a >> couple of items that we need to consider at the closing >> plenary. The following are suggested actions for the >> consideration of the EC. >> >> * Find provider or purchase machines for “internet cafe” >> that ensures that attendees have access to a machine to get >> web accounts, etc. > > What??? Attendees have always been expected to bring their own > notebook and > 802.11 card. > > I have no problem providing a limited number of 802.3 ports for > people who > haven't yet gotten with the program and provisioned their own 802.11 > card - > despite the fact that it's hard to buy a notebook without 802.22 > these days > - (including the "loan" of an 802.11 card with a deposit that would be > punitive to those who didn't return the card, since it's not our > intent to > become a purveyor of 802.11 cards), but if this is a proposal to > provide > *PCs* for public access in the "internet café" I think that's going > WAY to > far. > >> * Request VeriLAN to administer and take care of Murphy, >> application will always be administered by IEEE. > > I have no problem with a reasonable administration/maintenance fee > for the > hardware, with IEEE administering the s/w. > I will vote accordingly when we see some numbers. (Can this go > under our > current contract with Verilan, or does the IEEE require that we get > competitive bids for additional services?) > > >> >> James Gilb >> >> ---------- >> This email is sent from the 802 Executive Committee email >> reflector. This list is maintained by Listserv. >> > > ---------- > This email is sent from the 802 Executive Committee email > reflector. This list is maintained by Listserv. ---------- This email is sent from the 802 Executive Committee email reflector. This list is maintained by Listserv.