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Re: [802SEC] Electronic Participation in Interim Meetings



Mat, Bob, Paul, et all,

I am in violent agreement with Bob.  I object to electronic participation in
our face to face meetings for the reasons Bob outlined.

Carl
 

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> Matthew J. (US SSA)
> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 1:17 PM
> To: Bob Heile; STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
> Subject: Re: [802SEC] Electronic Participation in Interim Meetings
> 
> Hi Bob,
> 
>  
> 
> Feel free to call me if you want to discuss it in person, 
> otherwise I'm happy to conduct a dialogue on the reflector.  
> It is a complex topic, and would require a long exchange of 
> e-mail I suspect to reach a meeting of the minds.
> 
>  
> 
> Mat
> 
>  
> 
> Matthew Sherman, Ph.D. 
> Engineering Fellow
> BAE Systems -  Network Systems (NS)
> Office: +1 973.633.6344
> Cell: +1 973.229.9520
> email: matthew.sherman@baesystems.com
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> 
> From: Bob Heile [mailto:bheile@ieee.org]
> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 1:07 PM
> To: Sherman, Matthew J. (US SSA); STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
> Subject: Re: [802SEC] Electronic Participation in Interim Meetings
> 
>  
> 
> Mat
> 
> I am strongly against this.  Face to face meetings are the 
> most conducive to an effective exchange and debate of ideas. 
> Frequent telecons between meetings lets everyone participate 
> but the meeting itself should not be compromised.  Beyond 
> that it sets a dangerous precedent for extending that to Task 
> and Working group meetings.  
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> At 12:54 PM 1/10/2009 -0500, Sherman, Matthew J. (US SSA) wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> EC Members,
> 
>  
> 
> I have received requests from TV Whitespace ECSG members to 
> allow electronic participation (teleconference / Webex) for 
> the ECSG meetings at the upcoming Wireless Interim in LA.  I 
> have discussed this with the IEEE 802.11 Chair (Bruce) who 
> has no objection, and made sure that appropriate facilities 
> are available.  I checked with the IEEE 802 chair
> (Paul) who said he would permit electronic participation for 
> the ECSG at the interim if it was conducted as an 
> 'Experiment' (with hypothesis and
> metrics) to see if it adds clear value to the standards process.
> Accordingly we have formulated a hypothesis and metrics and 
> plan to conduct three two hour meetings at the wireless 
> interim that include electronic participation, and will 
> conduct straw polls at the end of the
> session to see if the metrics support our hypothesis.   We 
> will make the
> results of this experiment available to the EC at the March 
> session, along with other planned outputs from the ECSG.
> 
>  
> 
> If you have any questions about this, please feel free to contact me.
> 
>  
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Matthew Sherman
> Chair, IEEE802 Whitespace ECSG
> BAE Systems -  Network Systems (NS)
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> Cell: +1 973.229.9520
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