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Re: [802SEC] Fwd: [802SEC] Electronic Participation in Interim Meetings



Forwarded on behalf of Pat Kinney

At 03:17 PM 1/10/2009 -0600, Pat Kinney wrote:

The ISA allows electronic participation and I have found that it drastically reduces the effectivity of the meeting due to technical issues caused by the speakerphone, noise/other conversations at the remote end, remote people talking over in-room people, etc. I am firmly against allowing electronic meetings until the technical capabilities are equal to attending the meeting.

Pat

Fwd [802SEC] Electronic Partic.ems
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From: "Sherman, Matthew J. \(US SSA\)" <<mailto:matthew.sherman@baesystems.com>matthew.sherman@baesystems.com>
Date: January 10, 2009 1:23:13 PM CST
To: <<mailto:WHITESPACE@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG>WHITESPACE@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG>
Subject: FW: [802SEC] Electronic Participation in Interim Meetings




Matthew Sherman, Ph.D.
Engineering Fellow
BAE Systems -  Network Systems (NS)
Office: +1 973.633.6344
Cell: +1 973.229.9520
email: <mailto:matthew.sherman@baesystems.com>matthew.sherman@baesystems.com

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From: Bob Heile [<mailto:bheile@ieee.org>mailto:bheile@ieee.org]
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 1:07 PM
To: Sherman, Matthew J. (US SSA); <mailto:STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG>STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [802SEC] Electronic Participation in Interim Meetings

Mat

I am strongly against this. Face to face meetings are the most conducive to an effective exchange and debate of ideas. Frequent telecons between meetings lets everyone participate but the meeting itself should not be compromised. Beyond that it sets a dangerous precedent for extending that to Task and Working group meetings.

Bob


At 12:54 PM 1/10/2009 -0500, Sherman, Matthew J. (US SSA) wrote:


EC Members,



I have received requests from TV Whitespace ECSG members to allow
electronic participation (teleconference / Webex) for the ECSG meetings
at the upcoming Wireless Interim in LA.  I have discussed this with the
IEEE 802.11 Chair (Bruce) who has no objection, and made sure that
appropriate facilities are available.  I checked with the IEEE 802 chair
(Paul) who said he would permit electronic participation for the ECSG at
the interim if it was conducted as an 'Experiment' (with hypothesis and
metrics) to see if it adds clear value to the standards process.
Accordingly we have formulated a hypothesis and metrics and plan to
conduct three two hour meetings at the wireless interim that include
electronic participation, and will conduct straw polls at the end of the
session to see if the metrics support our hypothesis.   We will make the
results of this experiment available to the EC at the March session,
along with other planned outputs from the ECSG.



If you have any questions about this, please feel free to contact me.



Best Regards,

Matthew Sherman
Chair, IEEE802 Whitespace ECSG
BAE Systems -  Network Systems (NS)
Office: +1 973.633.6344
Cell: +1 973.229.9520
email:  <mailto:matthew.sherman@baesystems.com>matthew.sherman@baesystems.com
<mailto:matthew.sherman@baesystems.com>




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Chair, IEEE 802.15 Working Group on Wireless Personal Area Networks
11 Robert Toner Blvd
Suite 5-301
North Attleboro, MA  02763   USA
Mobile: +1-781-929-4832
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