Re: [802SEC] Disclaimers in 802 EC postings
You don't have do the "email string review". I am just stating that I
will reject all postings with these statements if they are forwarded to
me for review.
The point is that we cannot accept their inputs if they put these
disclaimers into the email. If there is a disclaimer, then there is no
value in their input as they have requested that we not use it.
Mike Lynch wrote:
> And as I said in my email a few minutes earlier this means that all of us
> need to begin reviewing email strings, regardless of topic, to prevent some
> unintentional "pollution" by such a statement. Also, as I said earlier to
> you, I think that all of us need to add "email string review" to our job
> descriptions and hope that we can be paid for that.
> While my number of emails/month have dropped since 5 May it is still a
> significant number. Maybe I should just stop forwarding things rather than
> take the time to a) review for disclosure data or b) ask the author to
> resend data that could be of near term interest. Just doesn't seem an
> effective use of time to me to be an email editor. Yes, I will make certain
> that 802.18 participants are once again made aware but with the short time
> frame for much of the regulatory work I do not see value in rejecting their
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List *****
> [mailto:STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org] On Behalf Of James Gilb
> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 20:28
> To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
> Subject: Re: [802SEC] Disclaimers in 802 EC postings
> It doesn't matter where the disclaimer appears, it is inappropriate to
> post to the list.
> If you received such a message and forward it to the public reflector,
> then one of at least two things is true:
> 1) You have a confidentiality requirement with the sender and so you
> are violating that agreement by forwarding it to the list.
> 2) You do not have a confidentiality requirement with the sender and
> the sender should not have sent the information to you.
> I want to amend my earlier statement. If you have an email with a
> confidentiality disclaimer, don't post it at all. Ask the individual
> who put the disclaimer on it to resend it without the disclaimer.
> In any event, any post containing them anywhere in the message will be
> James Gilb
> Mike Lynch wrote:
>> The disclaimer issue is understood. On at least the email from today when
>> .18 participant responded his employer's email system inserted the
>> disclaimer at the end of the email. I failed to review the entire email
>> string hence did not see it prior to forwarding to the EC.
>> I guess it is too sophisticated a requirement for the system to know that
>> the offending text is not from the person sending the email but may have
>> been embedded during an exchange of emails. So I guess we have to review
>> each email that is forwarded to the EC reflector.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List *****
>> [mailto:STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org] On Behalf Of James Gilb
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 19:33
>> To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
>> Subject: [802SEC] Disclaimers in 802 EC postings
>> Dear 802 EC mailing list members.
>> The IEEE mail server is able to detect (at least some) of the messages
>> that contain confidentiality disclaimers.
>> These messages are forwarded to the list moderator for approval (that is
>> me for this list).
>> As this is an open list, confidentiality disclaimers are not only
>> stupid, they are not allowed.
>> Unfortunately, I recently approved a post that contained a
>> confidentiality disclaimer. I am sorry for any problems this has caused.
>> The policy for the 802 EC mailing list is that any message that is
>> referred to the moderator for approval will be rejected if it contains
>> anywhere in the text of the message a confidentiality disclaimer.
>> If you get a response from the mail server that says that your message
>> has been referred to the moderator, you should check to see if a
>> confidentiality disclaimer is present. If so, repost the message
>> without the disclaimer as I will be rejecting the post.
>> If your company email system puts these on automatically, get a free
>> webmail accounts from one of the many providers and use that for IEEE
>> James Gilb
>> 802 Executive Secretary
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