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Re: [802SEC] +++ 10 Day EC Email Ballot +++ Exec Secretary T&L Funding


Does your position mean that the IEEE-SA (SASB, BoG, staff, legal) might decide that this is an inappropriate use of 802 treasury funds?

I share your concerns.
Also, I have severe misgivings as to how this motion would sidestep the specific issues that we are supposed to consider at March reelection time, i.e. that before members of the EC are reconfirmed in their positions that they have support in place.

Therefore, I believe that (at least) the question should be divided into
    - Support for the March meeting
- Support for any meetings after that (to be considered at the March meeting, not by mail ballot)

Geoff Thompson
802 EC Member Emeritus

On 1/11/10 11:52 AM, Grow, Bob wrote:

I'm not comfortable with the form and timing of this motion.  My concerns do not relate to the considerable effort the Executive Secretary put in to 802 meeting planning, or that there is real value in those services.  I am though bothered by the lack of consideration of the slippery slope it puts the EC on, the modifications it creates for conflict of interest issues previously discussed by the EC, the precedent it creates within IEEE-SA, etc.

Bob Grow
Chair, IEEE-SA Standards Board

-----Original Message-----
From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List ***** [] On Behalf Of John Hawkins
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 7:06 AM
Subject: [802SEC] +++ 10 Day EC Email Ballot +++ Exec Secretary T&L Funding

Dear EC members,

I should have brought this up in November, but alas it didn't get
done. Apologies in advance for cluttering your inboxes with another
email ballot.

Paul has delegated the conduct of the IEEE 802 EC 10-day ballot on the
following motion to me.

The EC approves the use of IEEE 802 resources for reimbursement of
reasonable and customary expenses (e.g. airfare, hotel, meals, etc)
for Buzz Rigsbee, the IEEE 802 Executive Secretary, for the following
plenaries, or until he is replaced, whichever is sooner:

     - 2009 November plenary
     - 2010 March, July, November plenaries

Such reimbursement will be not to exceed $1,000 per plenary, averaged
over the period

Moved:  John Hawkins
Seconded: Steve Shellhammer

Start of ballot: Tuesday 12th January, 2010
Close of ballot: Friday 22nd January 2010, 11:59PM EDT

Early close: As required in subclause 'Electronic Balloting'
of the IEEE project 802 LAN/MAN Standards Committee (LMSC) Operations
Manual, this is notice that this ballot may close early once
sufficient responses are received to clearly decide a matter.


  - As most of you are aware, Buzz has now formally retired from Boeing
and therefore has lost them as source of support for attending our
meetings. Fortunately for us, Buzz is willing to continue his service
as Executive Secretary for the IEEE 802. Given the complexity of this
function, and the significant time and commitment involved, this is a
positive for us.

  - The motion proposes that we cover his expenses, at least in part.
Mostly these would consist of airfare and local transportation, but
may also involve hotel/meals in certain instances. Note that hotels
often "comp" Buzz's room expenses given his role in negotiating
contracts on our behalf, but there could be an exception here or there
so I'm leaving the motion open to that possibility. Note also that we
are limiting the commitment to actual expenses, not to exceed $1,000
per plenary on average and would be limited to the listed sessions
requiring new approval thereafter. This is modeled after the approach
we used with supporting Arnie's T&L a few years ago, and certainly is
a level we can handle within our current budget.

  - I have communicated with Paul and Buzz and we agree that this is
not a long-term solution, as Buzz will someday  desire to "retire"
from IEEE 802 as well. We agree that a succession plan is needed and
are investigating the best way forward there. This will be a difficult
function to fill with a volunteer, as it involves little
technical/standards work, and yet consumes significant time and
commitment. Since Buzz is willing and able, I think this is a wise
investment of a limited amount of our funds in the short term.


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