Re: [802SEC] +++ 10-day EC Email Ballot +++ Plenary Session Coffee Break Times
I'm voting against the motion for the same reasons already stated.
Shorter availability of beverage service constaining when I set break times for my group (especially the morning break) would interfere with my meeting efficiently. I have had no problem with people leaving for beverages interfering with my meeting.
Pat
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Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++ 10-day EC Email Ballot +++ Plenary Session Coffee Break Times
Hi Geoff, Actually the complaint that stimulated this exercise applied to
both the coffee & tea service as well as the snacks so we are trying to
decide if we agree with that view or not. I am happy to take direction to
look at other alternatives once we have some sense of where the consensus
might lie. But the current motion stands and those who want long coffee and
short snacks should vote against the current motion. We can always take
another motion or straw poll at the EC on Friday after WG chairs have had a
chance to collect the sentiments in their individual working groups.
:-)
Thanx, Buzz
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From: Geoff Thompson [mailto:thompson@ieee.org]
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 3:25 PM
To: BRigsB@ieee.org
Cc: 802 0 Exec; 802 INFO
Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++ 10-day EC Email Ballot +++ Plenary Session Coffee
Break Times
Buzz-
I believe that you are confusing the issue.
As has been said by several others, coffee and tea (important to me) are
not the issues that drive disorder.
It is the snacks.
Frankly (as I have said all along) I think that allowing break snacks to
become and entitlement was and is a bad idea.
Given that my view is unlikely to sway the group then the windows for
(especially premium) snack availability should be restricted and more
carefully coordinated with the WG chairs.
Caffein should be more broadly available in acknowledgment that much of
the business we conduct is less than of sparkling interest and many need
continuous infusion for their participation.
EC motions should not be required. This is operational/management stuff
not rules or orders
Geoff
On 3/2/10 8:31 AM, Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee wrote:
> Colleagues,
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> Paul has authorized me to issue the following motion for your
consideration.
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> Whereas: It has been observed by one of our WG Chairs that our current
> 2-hour coffee break windows (9-11am) and (2-4pm) can be disruptive to the
> meetings in progress since they allow attendees to leave the meeting in
> progress to get coffee or snacks, which can then inspire other attendees
to
> do the same. So it has been proposed that the interval for coffee breaks
be
> shortened to reduce this problem.
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> And Whereas: It has also been observed that the current 2-hour window
> permits more flexibility in when breaks are taken to accommodate the
> completion of topics under discussion without interruption.
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> Therefore: After due consideration it has been proposed that we ask the
EC
> to vote on whether we should shorten the coffee break interval to 1-hour
> instead of the current 2-hours, i.e. (10-11am) and (2:30-3:30pm).
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> Motion:
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> To approve reduction of the IEEE-802 Plenary Session coffee breaks from
> 2-hours to 1-hour, i.e. (10-11am) and (2:30-3:30pm).
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> Moved: Buzz Rigsbee
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> Seconded: John Hawkins
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> Start of ballot: Tuesday, 2 March 2010; Close of ballot: Saturday, 6th
> March, 2010 or as soon as possible.
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> Early close: As required in subclause 3.1.2.2 'Electronic Balloting of the
> IEEE project 802 LAN/MAN Standards Committee (LMSC) Operations Manual,
this
> is notice that this ballot may close early once sufficient responses are
> received to clearly decide a matter.
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> Thanx, Buzz
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> Please note my contact info:
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> Dr. Everett O (Buzz) Rigsbee
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> Executive Secretary, IEEE-802 LMSC
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> 7750 80th Place SE
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> Mercer Island, WA 98040-5912
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> ph/fx: 206-236-2229
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> cell: 206-818-4978
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> SkypeID: BRigsB
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> BRigsB@ieee.org
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