Re: [802SEC] trial-run interim EC telecon meetings--1-3pm ET 11JUN2010?
Oh, yeah, 1 Oct. That's better. I might be able to make that.
Roger
On 2010/04/27, at 12:21 AM, Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee wrote:
> Hey Roger, The message says October 1, which is a Friday. Check again.
> :-)
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org [mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org] On
> Behalf Of Roger B. Marks
> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 10:10 PM
> To: Paul Nikolich
> Cc: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
> Subject: Re: [802SEC] trial-run interim EC telecon meetings--1-3pm ET
> 11JUN2010?
>
> Paul,
>
> I will probably not be available for 11 June - the meeting is scheduled to
> begin at midnight where I will be (in Vietnam).
>
> I can't commit to 10 October either - it's a Sunday and I may need to be
> flying that day.
>
> Roger
>
>
> On 2010/04/26, at 06:02 PM, Paul Nikolich wrote:
>
>> Geoff, All,
>>
>> I thing the best thing for us to do is to have a 'trial' EC teleconference
> 1-3pm ET 11June as a means of shaking down the process. We can report the
> results of the trial-run to the members in July, refine the process, and
> (perhaps) have the 1st 'official' interim EC teleconference the 1st week of
> October.
>>
>> I'm pretty sure I can get web/teleconference services from the IEEE that
> will provide adequate ports. I think 30 days advance notice of this
> 'trial-run' interim EC meeting should be sufficient.
>>
>> Tentative agenda--I will take requests for additional agenda items--but I
> think it would be useful to cover the following:
>>
>> 0) Engage in debate regarding an effective way to implement a regular
> "interm EC teleconference" in OCT, FEB and JUN. -- 30 minutes
>> 1) 802 WG/TAG updates--any items coming out of the WG/TAG interim sessions
> the EC should be aware of? now is the time to bring them up -- 30 minutes
>> 2) 802 Overview and Architecture revision project status update -- 15
> minutes
>> 3) IEEE SA items--the SASB meetings start 15JUN--status update on the
> Amazon single-copy sales channel project --5 minutes
>> 4) IEEE SA BoG update -- report from May BoG meeting--10 minutes
>> 5) spare time for other topics -- 30 minutes
>>
>> The toughest thing to do will be to find a time when all EC members are
> available. I've suggested the time/date of 1-3pm ET 11JUN2010--all EC
> members please keep that timeslot open and confirm you are available. While
> your are at it--please reserve time for 1-3pm ET 01OCT2010 and 1-3pm ET
> 04FEB2011...
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> --Paul
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geoff Thompson" <thompson@ieee.org>
>> To: <STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG>
>> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 3:53 PM
>> Subject: Re: [802SEC] straw poll summary of on the question of interim EC
> telecon meetings
>>
>>
>>> Paul-
>>> In my view, this proposal helps substantially except that we need to be
> careful on the open meeting aspect.
>>> That means that the conference calls would require:
>>> - sufficient advance notice of the conference call
>>> - sufficient distribution of the advance notice
>>> - sufficient conference ports available for observers
>>> And, since this would be a significant change in process (even if not in
> rules) then I don't think we should do it until after the next Plenary so
> that we can adjust the expectations of our constituency at that time.
>>>
>>> Geoff
>>>
>>> On 4/26/10 11:10 AM, Paul Nikolich wrote:
>>>> Steve,
>>>>
>>>> That is a very interesting suggestion--it gives us time to hash things
> out in real time and then make a quick decision in non-real, rule-compliant
> time...hmmm.
>>>>
>>>> --Paul
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shellhammer, Steve"
> <sshellha@QUALCOMM.COM>
>>>> To: <STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG>
>>>> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 2:01 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [802SEC] straw poll summary of on the question of interim
> EC telecon meetings
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Paul,
>>>>>
>>>>> One way to deal with this is to hold a non-voting meeting where we
> discuss motions and then to have a post-meeting electronic ballot, on each
> motion. So the discussion could take place during the call. We could even
> have a straw poll and it there is controversy discuss what the controversy
> is.
>>>>>
>>>>> The main issue is the overhead of having the electronic ballot. Maybe
> a simple spreadsheet could be used to combine all the motions onto a single
> spreadsheet and people could just enter their votes. It is more overhead
> but it would be helpful to the WGs on motions to go to Sponsor ballot and
> RevCom. We might end up with less conditional motions to go to Sponsor
> ballot and RevCom since WGs would not have to wait 4 months.
>>>>>
>>>>> I believe this works with the current rules.
>>>>>
>>>>> Comments?
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List *****
> [mailto:STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Pat Thaler
>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 9:34 AM
>>>>> To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
>>>>> Subject: Re: [802SEC] straw poll summary of on the question of interim
> EC telecon meetings
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul,
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think 2 quite covers the response I gave. My points were
>>>>> -- we already have continuous processing available via email votes
> except for submittal of PARs to NesCom.
>>>>> PARs to NesCom should continue to be an action taken only at plenaries
>>>>> (except perhaps for corrigenda)
>>>>> email is best for continuous processing of approval to go to sponsor
> ballot or RevCom
>>>>> -- therefore, I don't support having an interim EC meeting for these,
> but I could see one to deal with the topics and coordination that get short
> shrift during a busy plenary
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Pat
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List *****
> [mailto:STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Paul Nikolich
>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 1:04 PM
>>>>> To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
>>>>> Subject: [802SEC] straw poll summary of on the question of interim EC
> telecon meetings
>>>>>
>>>>> All,
>>>>>
>>>>> So far the responses generally fall into two categories:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) good idea, need to work out details, go for it
>>>>> (Apurva, Buzz, Steve, Bruce, Jon, JohnH, Subir, Mike)
>>>>>
>>>>> 2) not a bad idea, have concerns, proceed with caution
>>>>> (Pat, Mat, Tony, James, Geoff, JohnL, David)
>>>>>
>>>>> Any further opinions? A few people (BobH, Roger, Mark) have yet to
> weigh
>>>>> in.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> --Paul
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Nikolich"
> <paul.nikolich@ATT.NET>
>>>>>> To: <STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG>
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 10:19 AM
>>>>>> Subject: [802SEC] straw poll on interim EC telecon meetings
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear EC members,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd like to get your feedback on holding an EC meeting via
> teleconference
>>>>>> between plenary sessions (for example in the 1st week of June, October
> and
>>>>>> February). My though is we'd hold a 2 hour telecon to make decisions
> on
>>>>>> time-critical items such as PAR approvals, Sponsor Ballot initiation
>>>>>> approvals, RevCom submissions, etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd make sure we'd have an agenda posted 30 days in advance an all the
>>>>>> materials necessary to make such decisions available for review at
> least
>>>>>> one week before the telecon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thoughts? Please provide your feedback by 23APR. I'll summarize the
>>>>>> feedback and if the response is positive, I'd like us to consider
> holding
>>>>>> the first such meeting 1pm-3pm ET Friday 04JUN2010.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --Paul
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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