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All, Based on Rogers's comments below, Mike has updated the draft press release to draft D1.2 which is attached. For reference I've also attached a D1.1 to D1.2 compare. I do hope this will address Roger's comments. Thanks and best regards, David -----Original Message----- From: Roger Marks [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org] On Behalf Of Roger B. Marks Sent: 28 September 2010 16:11 To: Law, David Cc: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++ 10-day EC Email Ballot +++ IEEE P802.3az Energy-efficient Ethernet approval press release David, I vote Disapprove, with the following comments: *Please review the statement that "This translates into a reduction of the Information and Communication Technologies (ICT) carbon footprint by roughly 3000 tons per year." By "tons", I presume we are talking about tons of CO2. According to <http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/ask/environment_faqs.asp#electricity_fossil_fuels>, electricity generation produces around 2 lb of CO2/kWh. As I calculate, that's 1 ton per MW/h. The press release talks about 5 terawatt-hours, which looks to me like 5 millions tons of CO2. I'd like to see the justification for citing 3000 tons. *"ratified" => "approved" *"spending substantial quantity of energy sitting idle" => "expending substantial energy sitting idle" *"World Summit for an Information Society" => "World Summit on the Information Society" *Delete "There is a concerted effort by many organizations, such as the EU, IPCC and EPA to reduce ICT energy use and the associated Green House Gases (GHG)." *"in US alone" => "in the U.S. alone" *"DOE" = "U.S. Department of Energy (DoE)" *"It truly exemplifies research and industry coming together in IEEE 802 to develop a standard that achieves the missions of the IEEE and DOE, benefiting all users and providers of Ethernet network-based services and products." => "It truly exemplifies research and industry coming together in IEEE 802 to develop a standard that achieves the mission of the IEEE while benefiting society as well as users and providers of network-based services and products." Roger On 2010/09/23, at 01:42 PM, Law, David wrote: > All, > > Based on Geoff's comments below, as well as a number of comments I received off-line, Mike has updated the draft press release to draft D1.1 which is attached. For reference I've also attached a D1.0 to D1.1 compare. > > I hope this will address everybody's comments. > > Thanks and best regards, > David > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Geoff Thompson [mailto:email@example.com] > Sent: 23 September 2010 03:56 > To: Law, David > Cc: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG; Michael Bennett; Geoff Thompson > Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++ 10-day EC Email Ballot +++ IEEE P802.3az Energy-efficient Ethernet approval press release > > David- > > I think it needs quite a bit of work. More than I can do at the moment. > Thus my vote for the time being is: > DISAPPROVE > I have no objection in principle to an 802.3az press release. > I would not be willing to see this one go out. > > For example: "fully deployed" would lead the public to believe that the > full benefit will be received by 2013. Nothing could be further from > the truth. Energy reduction only occurs when both ends of an existing > link are replaced. I have no reason to believe that the market will > have turned over all that equipment by 2013. > > Further, it implies that the most significant energy savings s will > during the run-up to full deployment. Quite the opposite is the case. > > Geoff > > > On 22/9/10 4:08 PM, Law, David wrote: >> Dear EC members, >> >> The IEEE-SA has prepared a press release in anticipation of the approval of IEEE P802.3az Energy-efficient Ethernet at the upcoming IEEE-SA Standards Board meeting on Thursday 30th September. This press release will therefore be released contingent upon the IEEE-SA Standards Board actually voting to approve the standard that morning. As the development of this press release was at the request of the Task Force Chair and myself I'm seeking EC approval. >> >> Paul has delegated the conduct of the EC electronic ballot on the following motion to me. >> >> Please note that there are a number of 'additional quotes' appended to the draft release from end users. Since this email ballot process may result in a change to the content of release, the appending of each quote to the actual release is pending final approval from the sources once they can review the final release. This is on the basis that they only have the ability to approve the appending of their quotes as is. They will not be able to make any further changes or additions to their quotes - or to the release itself. If they choose not to provide approval, due for example to a change in the release during this ballot, their quote will simply not be included. To allow maximum time for process I am announcing the possibility of an 'early close' to this ballot (see below). >> >> Best regards, >> David >> >> >> Motion >> ====== >> >> The EC supports the IEEE P802.3az Energy-efficient Ethernet press release, to be released contingent upon the IEEE-SA Standards Board voting to approve the IEEE P802.3az draft as an IEEE Standard, with editorial changes as deemed necessary. >> >> Move: David Law >> Second: Tony Jeffree >> >> Start of ballot: Wednesday 22nd September >> Close of ballot: Saturday 2nd October, 11:59PM AOE >> >> Early close: As required in subclause 22.214.171.124 'Electronic Balloting' of the IEEE project 802 LAN/MAN Standards Committee (LMSC) Operations Manual, this is notice that, to ensure the release is provided in a timely manner, this ballot may close early once sufficient responses are received to clearly decide a matter. >> >> ---------- >> This email is sent from the 802 Executive Committee email reflector. This list is maintained by Listserv. >> > > ---------- > This email is sent from the 802 Executive Committee email reflector. This list is maintained by Listserv. > <802d3az_pr_0910_D1p1CMP.pdf><802d3az_pr_0910_D1p1.pdf> ---------- This email is sent from the 802 Executive Committee email reflector. This list is maintained by Listserv.