Re: [802SEC] +++ 30 day EC email ballot ++++ Proposed changes to 802 P&P
James,
Sorry for the delay. I vote approve.
John
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From: owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org [mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org] On Behalf Of James P. K. Gilb
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 2:03 PM
To: 802ExecutiveCommittee (STDS-802-SEC@IEEE.ORG)
Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++ 30 day EC email ballot ++++ Proposed changes to 802 P&P
All
A reminder: the ballot concludes on January 3, 2013. As of now, the ballot is failing as it requires 13 approve votes to pass (see below) and there are only 10 approve votes. The current tally is:
Voter: APP DIS ABS DNV
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CH Paul Nikolich DNV
VC Pat Thaler DNV
VC James Gilb APP
ES Jon Rosdahl APP
RS John D'Ambrosia DNV
TR Clint Chaplin APP
01 Tony Jeffree APP
03 David Law DNV
11 Bruce Kraemer APP
15 Bob Heile APP
16 Roger Marks APP
18 Mike Lynch APP
19 Steve Shellhammer APP
21 Subir Das APP
22 Apurva Mody DNV
24 James Gilb (can only vote once)
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TOTALS 10 0 0 5
If you have not voted, please consider voting.
Update (I didn't include the Chair in prior calculations): As a reminder, the criteria to pass is 2/3 of all members. We have a 6 officers (including the Chair), 10 WG/TAG chairs (but the 802.24 Chair/2nd Vice Chair counts as only one member, not two) and 4 non-voting members (2 chairs of hibernating working groups and 2 members
emeritus) for a total of 19 members. 2/3 of this is 13.
If this ballot passes, then once the new P&P is posted by AudCom, the criteria for future changes will be 2/3 of all voting members (currently 15), which, in this case, would be 10.
James Gilb
On 12/03/2012 02:24 PM, James P. K. Gilb wrote:
> 802 EC members
>
> Background:
> We received a comment on our proposed P&P. In our old P&P, public
> statements require only majority vote, however in the new baseline,
> they require super majority vote.
>
> In keeping with our old P&P, I had moved this from super majority to
> simple majority. However, in that baseline, the super majority items
> are not allowed to be moved to simple majority.
>
> Hence, I have posted a new proposed P&P to mentor at
> https://mentor.ieee.org/802-ec/dcn/12/ec-12-0084-00-00EC-proposed-lmsc
> -p-p-rev-13.doc
> and I have attached a copy as well.
>
> Motion:
> This email serves as the submission 30 days in advance of the
> conclusion of an electronic ballot to approve them. I propose the
> following motion to be confirmed by an EC electronic ballot that
> concludes on January 3,
> 2013:
>
> -------------
> This motion is proposed using the process defined in "Revision of
> Sponsor P&P" in our currently approved Sponsor P&P.
>
> Moved: The 802 EC approves the document ec-12-0084-00-00EC as the IEEE
> 802 LMSC Policies and Procedures that will be submitted to AudCom for
> approval, with editorial changes allowed.
>
> Moved: James Gilb
> Second: Jon Rosdahl
> ------------
>
> Reference, from Clause 12 of IEEE 802's approved P&P:
>
> 12 Revision of Sponsor P&P
>
> Revisions to these P&P shall be submitted to the sponsor no less than
> 30 day in advance of a motion (or conclusion of an electronic ballot)
> to approve them. Amendments in response to comments on the P&P are
> permitted. Insufficient time to consider complex amendments is a valid
> reason to vote disapprove. A motion to revise the Sponsor P&P shall
> require a vote of approve by at least two thirds of all members of the
> Sponsor.
>
> Second Vice Chair's note regarding threshold for passing the motion:
> We have 5 officers, 9 WG/TAG chairs, 2 chairs of hibernating WGs and 2
> member emeriti
> - 10 WGs/TAGs, but count Gilb in officers, not as TAG chair
> - 18 members, 2/3 approval is 12 affirmative votes
>
> James Gilb
> IEEE 802 Second Vice Chair
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