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I’ve updated the minutes to capture the action item as:
Soo Kim to alert appropriate body (Yvette, Dave Ringle) that this (the public review process) might cause significant issues for 802 standards publication / progressions. Geoffrey Thompson offers to review material describing this process.
The current SB OM contains:
126.96.36.199 Comments received as a result of a public review
If a comment is received as a result of a public review process, that comment will be addressed by the
Sponsor and a disposition returned to the commenter, along with information concerning their right of
That is the sum total of the current rules.
I know that staff are working out the rules for public review, and they will be considered by the ProCom and
standards board in due course. I attend ProCom meetings as an observer, and I’m on the standards board. You can be sure I’ll pay attention to this issue. IMHO the only workable solution that is likely to satisfy ANSI is for the entire sponsor ballot process to last at least 60 days so that there is a process to respond to comments and an opportunity for them to affect the draft.
Adrian P STEPHENS
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I want to congratulate Adrian on coming up with a scary and effective way to get folks to review the minutes.
I know the open references in the list below drove me to go back and see what I allegedly agreed to.
Regarding #2, I don't think I offered to work on a solution, that is a ProCom/RevCom issue.
I was merely pointing out that there seemed to be a significant potential for "Public Review" (with a 60 day ballot period) to lengthen the time that it takes tightly managed 802 draft projects to go through the Sponsor Ballot cycle.
Whether or not this is actually the case seems to not be defined at this point because (as far as I know) there is no defined procedure in the SASB P&P for how to deal with Public Review comments that come in after close of initial Sponsor Ballot but meet the Public Review deadline.
If the deadline doesn't mean anything, as is effectively the case on comments we receive on international ballots from SC 6, then the comments can just be treated as input to our maintenance process. However, I somehow doubt that will be the case. JTC1 comments are entirely outside the scope of RevCom review. I don't think failure to address Public Review comments can escape the RevCom review process if the SA wishes to keep its ANSI accreditation. Therefore, we need actual procedures on what the review requirements are for a RevCom submittal package so we can assess the possible impact on the time it takes to get from opening of Sponsor Ballot to RevCom package submittal.
Staff did not seem to have crisply defined material in that area.
I am happy to take the action item to review such material and
- Report/critique on whether it is fully defined
- Report on whether it will impact our schedules
- Report on whether I see any problems with the system and its P&P
Clearly, this is a problem/requirement that appears to go well beyond the scope of what have been classified and handled as "rogue" comments in the past.
On Jul 25, 2014, at 2:50 AMPDT, Stephens, Adrian P <Adrian.P.Stephens@INTEL.COM> wrote: