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Re: [802SEC] Fwd: IMPORTANT AND TIME DEPENDENT -- Information Request to IEEE-SA Sponsors - Please reply by 06 October 2017



Yes, I was suggesting that we collect them all into one report, but we need WG chairs to let us know if we are missing anything.

We also use reflectors which have names and email addresses - I think all of them are IEEE reflectors so IEEE should be covering any interaction of that with the directive. 

On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 3:46 PM, Jon Rosdahl <jrosdahl@ieee.org> wrote:
Pat,
   I think that the slight differences can be noted in a single response from 802.
I agree with the one report for 802 plan.

The idea that we have independent Hosts collecting data for registration on our meetings is an issue, and we will have to include required process for the handling of that data.
The Wireless Plenaries use the same exact system for 2 of 3 meetings currently and the 3rd is similar to a host that you note, but that does not change the expected level of care that will need to apply to a host or the registration system used by 802 or 802Wireless.

I would expect that the way we do registrations may need some modification in the future (i.e. how to dispose of information after the meeting -- retention requirements etc).

Regards,
Jon


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On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 3:33 PM, Pat Thaler <000006d722d423ba-dmarc-request@ieee.org> wrote:
Most of the things are common across 802 - all the items I mentioned are common except for the IEEE 802.3 paper attendance record.

I think we should compile one report with the common items plus any WG specific items. 

One area is interim meeting registrations. For 802.1 and 802.3, most interim meetings are hosted and the host handles registration. In that case, there is no contact between the registration and the IEEE systems/data so nothing to report? For wireless meeting registrations, is info handling the same as for plenaries?



On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 1:48 PM, Paul Nikolich <paul.nikolich@att.net> wrote:
Steve,

I don't think that's feasible because each group handles data a little bit differently.  If you have detailed questions , please direct them to Yvette and Markus (copied here).

I did ask Jon Rosdahl to coordinate.  Let's see what Jon has to say after he has time to think about it.

Regards,

--Paul

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Subject: Re: [802SEC] Fwd: IMPORTANT AND TIME DEPENDENT -- Information Request to IEEE-SA Sponsors - Please reply by 06 October 2017

Paul,

 

                Can 802 provide one response to this request versus responses from each individual working group?

 

Thanks,

Steve

 

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Subject: Re: [802SEC] Fwd: IMPORTANT AND TIME DEPENDENT -- Information Request to IEEE-SA Sponsors - Please reply by 06 October 2017

 

While Pat is completely correct that the information provided in the document is incomplete and raises many questions, Paul may be able to clarify, but I believe at this time the "task force" is asking only for us to provide specifically what information we collect, retain and use, and the various systems involved.   I read it that the task force is supposed to use this information and, we might *assume*, provide us with procedural guidance and requirements for compliance with the regulatory requirements at some point between now and the regulations taking effect.

If we wish to list all the flaws in the document, that will take quite some time.  Speculation on what irrational and impossible to comply with procedures the task force might come up with is likewise likely to take some time. While both may be entertaining, neither seems productive. What seems productive to me is give them information on how we conduct our business as completely and accurately as possible, see what they do, and then whinge about the resul then :-).

 

 

On 9/27/2017 12:04 PM, Adrian Stephens wrote:

Hello Pat,

Please see below...

Sincerely,
 
Adrian Stephens
IEEE 802.11 Working Group Chair
mailto: adrian.p.stephens@ieee.org
Phone: +447342178905
Skype: adrian_stephens

On 2017-09-27 08:52, Pat Thaler wrote:

The information sheet provided is flawed. It has the requirement:

"Consent

· Must be explicit for sensitive data"

It defines Personal Data, but not sensitive data so it impossible to know whether one is meeting that requirement.

 

It asks about whether information is passed to a third party. 

F2F collects information as part of registration and they collect data as part of that. Also, registration uses RegOnline.

One can enter a password to import data from the past registration so data is retained from meeting to meeting. It isn't clear that there is any mechanism to get your data removed.

I think you ask the meeting planners,  who have administrative access to this data.

Registration requires an SA pin - is it used to access data from IEEE servers?

No.  In the past the registration system confirmed username/password and discovered and retained SA pin.
Now,  the SA pin is an input field that ~90% of registrants manage to enter correctly.

 

IMAT system captures attendance data. Working group officers download the data so have access to it.

 

IEEE 802.3 collects names and affiliation on paper to record partial participation since IMAT doesn't support that.

 

Names and affiliation are published in minutes. They aren't removable - in this case, we have legitimate legal reasons for not providing the "right to be forgotten."

 

MyBallot comment databases contain ballot pool member classification, email and phone as well as name and affiliation.  It is visible on line to Sponsor officers (Sponsor chair and vice-chairs at least - I can see it for all 802 sponsor ballots), WG chair and delegates. These volunteers can also download it in a CSV that includes name, classification, affiliation and email address

 

Information for commenters (name, affiliation, email and phone)  is included when downloading comments and distributed to editors as part of the comment database to enable comment resolution.

 

That's all I can think of offhand.

 

Regards,

Pat

 

On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 10:59 AM, Benjamin A. Rolfe <ben@blindcreek.com> wrote:

According to the "any operation performed on personal data, whether or not by automated means, including collection, use, recording, etc."  we need also report manual operations  where we require personal information be provided even though it is not recorded, e.g. badge pickup where an attendee may must use a passport or other iD with a photo.  Is meeting attendance "personal" information? I don't know, so maybe we should include that this is recorded in imat and let the task force figure out if it's "personal" or not.  Not sure if this is what they are asking for, but better be too complete than to risk being incomplete.
 
B




On 9/27/2017 5:44 AM, Clint Chaplin wrote:

I can tell right now that data is collected as part of the meeting registration process and the meeting fee payment system.  As of now, that includes Authorize.net and RegOnline services.

 

On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 3:20 AM, paul.nikolich <paul.nikolich@att.net> wrote:

 

-------- Original message --------

From: Dave Ringle <d.ringle@ieee.org>

Date: 9/26/17 9:44 PM (GMT-05:00)

To: std-liaison-reps <std-liaison-reps@IEEE.ORG>

Cc: Yvette Ho Sang <y.hosang@IEEE.ORG>, Markus Plessel <m.plessel@IEEE.ORG>, Matt Ceglia <m.j.ceglia@IEEE.ORG>

Subject: IMPORTANT AND TIME DEPENDENT -- Information Request to IEEE-SA Sponsors - Please reply by 06 October 2017

 

IEEE-SA Sponsors,

 

As you may be aware, the European Union (EU) adopted the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) on 14 April 2016, which addresses collection and use of personal data. Similar regulations are being implemented in countries outside the EU. The GDPR will go into effect on 25 May 2018 and IEEE has to meet the requirements of the regulation by that date. 

 

In order to determine how our volunteers collect and use personal data, we will need to know what mechanisms/systems/applications are being used to collect or download personal data, where that personal data is sent, how it is used, and what retention is in place. IEEE is asking its standards development groups to provide that information so that it can determine what system or process changes may need to be implemented to meet the GDPR requirements.

 

An information sheet is attached to help you understand the regulation. Your IEEE Staff Program Manager will contact you in an effort to obtain the needed information. We will need your response by

​06​ 

October 2017

 

Thank you for your assistance in our effort to be compliant.

 

Regards,

 

 

 

Yvette  Ho Sang, MBA, ARM

Director, IPR and Risk Mgmt

IEEE Standards Association

Mobile: +1 732 690 9863

 

Fostering technological innovation and excellence for the benefit of humanity.

 

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