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Re: [802SEC] IEEE 802 Feb 6 Minutes Posted



Title: IEEE 802 Feb 6 Minutes Posted
Thanks Andrew! 

You have given the clarity I sought.  

I personally am not aware of any reason to not withdraw international versions of recent IEEE 802.x withdrawals, but would leave it to those with more expertise on the uses of those standards.  

Similarly, I have no objection to any of the below withdrawals, and will express personal support for 8802-5 withdrawal.

—Bob

On Mar 1, 2018, at 7:35 PM, Andrew Myles (amyles) <amyles@CISCO.COM> wrote:

G’day Bob,

 

It is not actually too late  to reconsider the “recent IEEE 802.x withdrawals”. Some missing information meant that I did not execute this action from Nov 2017. It is on the agenda for the IEEE 802 JTC1 SC, and I intend to execute the action after the Chicago meeting, unless told otherwise by the EC.

 

The standards I am referring to are:

·        ISO/IEC TR 8802-1:2001

·        ISO/IEC 15802-1:1995

·        ISO/IEC 15802-3:1998

·        ISO/IEC 8802-5 and anything related (such as corrigenda)

 

Refer to slides 86-89 of the IEEE 802 JTC1 SC agenda

 

Andrew

 

From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List ***** [mailto:STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Robert Grow
Sent: Friday, 2 March 2018 3:01 AM
To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [802SEC] IEEE 802 Feb 6 Minutes Posted

 

John, EC Colleagues

 

The new text reads better, but still doesn’t answer my concern regarding 8802-2.  We withdrew 802.2 years ago, but wanted 8802-2 to stick around.  I hope the request wasn’t a blanket request to withdraw all international versions of all withdrawn 802.x standards!  

 

IMHO, the EC should specifically identify by motion a request for staff to withdraw the international version when the IEEE standard is withdrawn.  We probably also should consider indicating on a withdrawal ballot if the intent is to recommend withdrawal of a corresponding international standard if the IEEE version is withdrawn.  (It is too late for this on recent IEEE 802.x withdrawals, but explicit listing of the 802.x standards would be better than a general request because we still use 8802-2 capabilities in active 802 standards.

 

—Bob

 


On Mar 1, 2018, at 5:54 AM, John DAmbrosia <jdambrosia@gmail.com> wrote:

Bob

Thanks for catching my bad typing.

 

The action item has been corrected accordingly –

 

Item 5.012 - Goldberg/ Haasz go through and review SA database to ensure International Version of standards are withdrawn correctly.

 

The minutes / webpage are being corrected now.

 

Regards,

 

John

From: Robert Grow [mailto:bobgrow@cox.net]
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 6:32 AM
To: John DAmbrosia <jdambrosia@GMAIL.COM>
Cc: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [802SEC] IEEE 802 Feb 6 Minutes Posted

 

John:

 

Pages 6, 10, and 12, Action Item 5.012 is repeated.  At first I thought there was only a grammar problem, but in trying to correct the grammar, I can create both acceptable (listing withdrawn standards correctly) and unacceptable things (withdrawing international versions of withdrawn IEEE standards, e.g. 8802-2).  Not having attended the call I’m curious to know what the action really is.

 

—Bob

 

 


On Feb 26, 2018, at 3:36 PM, John DAmbrosia <jdambrosia@GMAIL.COM> wrote:

All,

Minutes from the Feb 6 teleconference have been posted.

https://mentor.ieee.org/802-ec/dcn/18/ec-18-0022-00-00EC-feb-6-2018-ec-teleconfernce-minutes.pdf

Please review and send me any feedback asap, as the minutes will be on the consent agenda for the Monday EC meeting for approval.

Regards,

John D’Ambrosia


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