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Re: [802SEC] 802 restructuring ad hoc 1pm ET meeting 17 August 2021 to be replaced by 4pm ET Near Term Mixed Mode Meeting sub ad hoc



We SHOULD NOT have each person speaking into their laptop when we are all collocated in a room – you are begging for several instances of feedback per meeting. In fact, I would say that the in-room participants should choose the no audio option so that they can’t accidentally cause feedback.

 

“web-broadcast f2f” is the proper model for speaking.

 

 

Chad Jones

Technical Leader, Cisco Systems

Chair, IEEE P802.3da Task Force

Principal, NFPA 70 CMP3

 

 

From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List ***** <STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org> on behalf of George Zimmerman <george@CMEPHYCONSULTING.COM>
Reply-To: George Zimmerman <george@cmephyconsulting.com>
Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 10:47 AM
To: "STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG" <STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG>
Subject: Re: [802SEC] 802 restructuring ad hoc 1pm ET meeting 17 August 2021 to be replaced by 4pm ET Near Term Mixed Mode Meeting sub ad hoc

 

Chad – I think you’ve hit on one of the key things to refine – the model for speaking.

In the document, it isn’t clear whether the speaking model is ‘co-located virtual’ (everyone talks into his/her own laptop), or ‘web-broadcast f2f’ – room mics and audio for the in-person part, piped in sound for the remotes.  At the moment, I don’t think it works for either.  (you’d have either no in room mic/speakers or a setup as you describe).

I think the group is settling on the latter (in-room mic and sound) rather than the former, and the document needs to get adjusted if that is the case. 

 

I think in terms of help, we should not burden the chair with setup.  That should be clear.

 

From: Chad Jones (cmjones) <cmjones@cisco.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 7:26 AM
To: George Zimmerman <george@cmephyconsulting.com>; STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [802SEC] 802 restructuring ad hoc 1pm ET meeting 17 August 2021 to be replaced by 4pm ET Near Term Mixed Mode Meeting sub ad hoc

 

George, it looks like your in-room equipment is exactly the same as before. That is not going to work for hybrid meetings for the audio. Pre-covid, each room had at least two mics, so there was a mixer and the in-room speakers. We need to get the output of that mixer into a laptop for the online participants. This should be easily done with a USB dongle that takes the same line level mix that runs to the speakers (need to contemplate more – may need to run mixer to laptop then laptop to speakers to get audio for in room and online through the speakers. The audio contractor should be able to provide guidance here). Now, expecting each chair to correctly install these devices, I think that’s another story. Therefore, I would suggest each meeting room has a dedicated meeting laptop that is the ONLY audio connection in the meeting room and also drives the projector. With this scheme, you can be sure all attendees are seeing and hearing the same thing.

 

 

Chad Jones

Technical Leader, Cisco Systems

Chair, IEEE P802.3da Task Force

Principal, NFPA 70 CMP3

 

 

From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List ***** <STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org> on behalf of George Zimmerman <george@CMEPHYCONSULTING.COM>
Reply-To: George Zimmerman <george@cmephyconsulting.com>
Date: Monday, August 16, 2021 at 6:29 PM
To: "STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG" <STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG>
Subject: Re: [802SEC] 802 restructuring ad hoc 1pm ET meeting 17 August 2021 to be replaced by 4pm ET Near Term Mixed Mode Meeting sub ad hoc

 

All – please review https://mentor.ieee.org/802-ec/dcn/21/ec-21-0157-00-00EC-best-practices-for-mixed-mode-ieee-802-lmsc-sessions.docx , as updating this doc will be the main agenda item for tomorrow, near-term mixed mode meeting.

If you have a presentation you would like to have on the agenda, please let me know asap.

-george

 

From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List ***** <STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org> On Behalf Of Paul Nikolich
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2021 12:45 PM
To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [802SEC] 802 restructuring ad hoc 1pm ET meeting 17 August 2021 to be replaced by 4pm ET Near Term Mixed Mode Meeting sub ad hoc

 

Dear EC Members and Observers,

 

We are scheduled to have an 802 restructuring ad hoc meeting 1pm ET tomorrow Tuesday 17 August that I have decided to cancel and replace with George Zimmerman's Near Term Mixed Mode Meeting sub ad hoc scheduled for later in the afternoon 4pm ET Tuesday 17 August, coordinates below.

 

Join from the meeting link https://cmeconsulting.my.webex.com/cmeconsulting.my/j.php?MTID=me1457437e58b3a5680ac6bc52f5e51ae
Join by meeting number: Meeting number (access code): 2556 180 6463
Meeting password: M2Cix55ZWka (62249559 from phones and video systems)
Join by phone: +1-415-655-0001 US Toll

 

Please review the 802 restructuring ad hoc meeting notes from the 20 July 2021 below, we will follow up on the action items from the 20 July meeting at our next regularly scheduled 802 restructuring ad hoc on 21 September 2021.

 

Regards,

 

--Paul

 

 

------ Forwarded Message ------

From: "Paul Nikolich" <paul.nikolich@att.net>

Sent: 7/20/2021 5:52:42 PM

Subject: [802SEC] 802 restructuring ad hoc 20 July 2021 meeting notes

 

Dear EC Members and observers,

 

The meeting notes document from today's restructuring ad hoc meeting is at https://mentor.ieee.org/802-ec/dcn/21/ec-21-0171-00-00EC-notes-802-restructuring-ad-hoc-meeting-20-july-2021.docx 

 

 

Thank you to all that participated.

 

Regards,

 

--Paul


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