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Re: [802SEC] Mixed Mode Meeting -- Guiding Principles Discussion



G’day all

 

I was unable to attend today’s call but have a question and a suggestion

 

The question

 

Was there any discussion about the definition of “significant portion of the attendees”?

 

The suggestion

 

There seems to have been some discussion about when it is unreasonable for a person to attend F2F. Various criteria could be defined, including Beth’s suggestion that a requirement for 4+ days of quarantine would make travel unreasonable. I would agree with that as one criteria

 

Many/many  countries provide travel advice to various destinations on a four level scale:

  • 1: Exercise normal precautions
  • 2: Exercise a high degree of caution
  • 3: Reconsider your need to travel
  • 4: Do not travel

Historically, IEEE 802 destinations have been rated level 1 & 2 by all sensible governments. I would suggest that we consider it unreasonable to ask anyone to travel to a destination that is rated level 3 or 4 by any relatively sensible governments.

 

For fun, I looked up the advice for travel to the US from

  • Australia: do not travel (4)
  • New Zealand: do not travel (4)
  • UK: not advising against travel (?) - but it appears the US will not allow travel from UK
  • Canada: avoid non-essential travel (3)
  • Ireland: High degree of caution (2) - but it appears the US will not allow travel from Ireland

Andrew

 

From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List ***** <STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org> On Behalf Of Beth Kochuparambil (edonnay)
Sent: Wednesday, 18 August 2021 3:02 PM
To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [802SEC] Mixed Mode Meeting -- Guiding Principles Discussion

 

Hello Team – Thanks for a good discussion today!

 

The proposed Guiding Principle as in the document:

When remote participation is the only means of participating for a significant portion of the attendees, then we should strive to provide an equivalent experience for in person and remote participants. If remote participation is optional, the remote participant may not have an equivalent experience to an in person participant. 

 

A suggested modification and added principles for discussion:

  1. Produce high quality, market-relevant standards   (**NOTE: as stated by Ben, I believe this includes our desire to encourage moving back to face-to-face meetings (in some form) ASAP.)
  2. When remote participation is the only means of participating for a significant portion of the attendees, then we should strive to provide an equivalent experience for in person and remote participants.  Significant delay (4+ days quarantine or such delay) for the participant is considered a travel restriction.
  3. If remote participation is optional by choice, the remote participant may not is not expected to have an equivalent experience to an in person participant.  Restrictions regarding unvaccinated or those who choose not to disclose to meeting organizers one’s vaccination status fits under remote by choice.
  4. Leave long term decisions open, regarding to remote participation once a significant portion of attendees can attend face-to-face

 

 

In our discussions, the questions were asked, how do we determine travel restrictions of individuals.  I could see using something such as https://www.iatatravelcentre.com/world.php (or likewise, if announced) to verify information entered at the time of registration.  As long as a centralized site is used for the meeting, other sites could also be used/announced by the EC.  This is just a suggestion.

 

~Beth

 

 

From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List ***** <STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org> On Behalf Of Paul Nikolich
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 2:20 PM
To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [802SEC] 17AUG2021 Mixed Mode Meeting -- embedded notes in the updated best practices document

 

Dear All,

 

The updated best practices document based on the 16:00-17:00 ET 17 August 2021 meeting is now available at https://mentor.ieee.org/802-ec/dcn/21/ec-21-0157-01-00EC-best-practices-for-mixed-mode-ieee-802-lmsc-sessions.docx.

 

I tried to embed the meeting notes as comments in the document, hopefully you will be able to follow them.

 

The next meeting for further refinement of the Mixed Mode Session Best Practices draft is scheduled for 16:00-17:00 ET Tuesday 24 August 2021.  Your homework assignment prior to that meeting is to draft and share what you consider the core principles for Mixed Mode Sessions should be via this 802 EC reflector.  Non-real time exchange and consensus building via the reflector will make next week's call more productive.

 

Thank you for your time today,

 

--Paul


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