Re: [802SEC] Proposed rule change for in person attendance requirement.

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From: Benjamin Rolfe <ben@BLINDCREEK.COM>

Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2024 15:16:04 +0000

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Thread-topic: Proposed rule change for in person attendance requirement.

I strongly suggest we simply drop the one and half. We already say 2+1 which is sufficient and has the charm of not being as readily mistaken for wrong. ON the other hand, explaining that half a meeting doesn't count is fun and entertaining. However, I suspect the novelty of this exercise will wear off soon 😉. If the decision is made Friday to adopt the change then I'm sure this confusion will be replaced with something else we'll need to explain repeatedly (thus creating a new sense of novelty).

Thank you for your consideration.

Ben

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Subject: Re: [802SEC] Proposed rule change for in person attendance requirement.

Perhaps have it say “attend 1.5 meetings ON AVERAGE per year”

Regards,

Chad Jones

Principal Engineer, Cisco Systems

Executive Secretary, IEEE 802.3 Working Group

Chair, IEEE P802.3da Task Force

Principal, NFPA 70 CMP3

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Date: Tuesday, March 12, 2024 at 8:42 AM
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Subject: [802SEC] Proposed rule change for in person attendance requirement.

A question arose this morning regarding the proposed change. I think I know the answer but would appreciate verification/denial.

Someone attends this week virtually. Still counts because the current rules say it's credited attendance.

They attend the May wireless interim (or any other credited interim) in person. Thus they are eligible to become a WG voter at the start of the July plenary. Do they need to attend July in person?

From my reading we have not added "in person" requirement for July in this scenario.

Additional comment: in the summary slides someone put something suggesting attending 1.5 meetings per year in person was what is required. While I thought that was clear Sunday, quite a few people became confused, thinking this was saying attending 50% of a meeting had value. We should take that off the slide. THe part that says 2 one year and 1 the next is sufficient and not wrong.

FWIW

Ben

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