ieee8021,1/25/96 pm break-out results ... foil1------------------------ How many addresses? 1.Duplicate MAC stations exist 2.VLAN-challenged bridges in backbone (giant-enabled) 3.Stations connect to 2 different switches Consensus: Exterior addressing is important. foil2-------------------------- How long can the tag be? 1.Next 'interesting' length after 1518 bytes occurs when length Byte=0x5FF ... tag<= 35 bytes (Plenty) --------- Ethertype vs LLC ? 1.Ethertype allows cut-through 2.Ethertype is smaller 3.Computing/inserting length is hard ==> Ethertype ------------------ FDDI & 802.5? Supporting translational bridges requires FDDI to use SNAP Encoding. 802.5, no conclusion foil3---------------------------------------------- GOALS: 1.4-byte alignment reg'd 8-byte alignment desired 2.Minimal Frame expansion 3.Preserve original frame 4.Only add data in one place Strawperson | | | | | VDST VSRC TYPE FLAGS-VID CRC,normalization DA ... 6 6 2 2 4 6 ... (12 bit minimum VID) (CRC, normalization, *if used* !!!) Observations: Tag must be media-dependent. The tag goes on top of the MAC layer, not instead of it. foil4-------------------------------------------------- 1.FDDI Version (SNAP) 2.802.5 (SNAP or LLC) 3.Entry-level ethernet Encapsulation !short-form! -target the common configurations without the full overhead 4.What goes in the flags -may drive a need for an ethertype range 5.What fields are generated vs. checked... .................. Consensus that VLAN ID is useful, but not Essential, considering the VDST/VSRC ...