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Hi Ming,

 

No yet do the private discussion with Yonghoon, Larent and Jarkko. You could find their comment in the reflector as well.

 

 

Thanks

 

Best Regards

 

Jay Yang

 

From: Ganming (Ming) <ming.gan@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: 2020916 14:50
To: Yang, Zhijie (NSB - CN/Shanghai) <zhijie.yang@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; STDS-802-11-TGBE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: 答复: [STDS-802-11-TGBE] [Suspected Marketing Mail] Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBE] [EXT] Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBE] PDT MAC MLO Discovery: ML IE Structure

 

Hi Ahbi

 

Actually ML IE in Beacon and Probe frame belongs to discovery part and ML IE in authentication and association frame belongs to multi-link setup part. The motions you cited in your document do not cover these two parts. Now it is a little bit messy. I suggest to remove them or have high level sentence to describe them together.

 

Jay, is what do you mentioned below discussed before?

 

Best wishes

Ming Gan

 

发件人: Yang, Zhijie (NSB - CN/Shanghai) [mailto:zhijie.yang@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
发送时间: 2020916 11:04
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主题: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBE] [Suspected Marketing Mail] Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBE] [EXT] Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBE] PDT MAC MLO Discovery: ML IE Structure

 

Hi Arbi, Yonghoon, Larent, Jarkko,

 

I see we have same concern on the ML IE carried in Beacon, Probe RESP, Auth REQ& RESP frame. Could we talk it through this mail loop other than make a lot comment in the document? It will be higher efficient.

 

  1. ML IE present in Beacon frame:

As you know, non-AP MLD may perform active scan and passive scan to find AP SSID (or perform special scan to find the hidden SSID),  and STA only can find AP by receiving Beacon frame in passive scan mode. I think it’s necessary to carry ML IE in Beacon frame so that non-AP MLD can distinguish the pre-11be AP from 11be AP. If the non-AP MLD detect the AP MLD with the Beacon frame, non-AP MLD will sent out Auth REQ frame carrying MLD MAC address to AP MLD to set up the connection.

 

  1. ML IE  present in probe response frame:

Whether ML IE is mandatory carried in probe response frame is decided how we design the probe request behavior on non-AP MLD side. If we thought non-AP MLD should send out a general scan/normal probe request to gather pre-11be AP SSID, and then sent out a MLD scan/MLD probe request to gather 11be AP SSID, It’s fine that ML IE is only carried in probe response with which AP MLD reply to the MLD scan.

I think Laurent will agree with it since he did a lot of hard work on the will-design of MLD probe request format.

But I think it will be more efficient that non-AP MLD can find AP MLD through normal scan/ general probe request other than separate it into two different kinds of scan type. ML IE shall be carried in probe response from this perspective.

Anyway, it’s decided by the group, I think we could set it TBD at present.

 

  1. ML IE present in Auth frame.

According to the following motion, MLD MAC address should be carried in Auth frame, and I think ML IE is the best place to carry MLD MAC address, so I think ML IE should be carried in Auth frame. Do we have other better option to make it? I guess Yonghong’s concern is where is the better place to show this, in Arbi’s doc or Insun’s doc, correct? If so, I don’t have a clear idea on this.

 

I see the same _expression_ in Insun’s doc(1300/r5.)

[Motion 115, #SP89]

An Authentication frame transmitted by an STA affiliated with an MLD shall include its MLD MAC address in a Multi-Link element carried in the Authentication frame.

 

 

 

20/0387r3 (Multi-link setup follow up II, Po-Kai Huang, Intel)


 

SP#2

 

Do you support the following? 

  • An AP that is part of an AP MLD that supports SAE authentication shall include the MLD address in beacon and probe response frames it transmits. 
  • EHT MLD shall indicate its MLD MAC address during authentication request/response exchange 

 

Approved with unanimous consent

Straw poll #89 [#SP89]

 

 

 

 

Thanks

 

Best Regards

 

Jay Yang

 

From: Young Hoon Kwon <younghoon.kwon@xxxxxxx>
Sent: 2020916 7:04
To: STDS-802-11-TGBE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [Suspected Marketing Mail] Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBE] [EXT] Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBE] PDT MAC MLO Discovery: ML IE Structure

 

Hi Abhi,

 

I have some comments on the text as attached.

 

Thanks,

Young Hoon

 

From: Abhishek Patil <appatil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 1:15 PM
To: STDS-802-11-TGBE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [EXT] Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBE] PDT MAC MLO Discovery: ML IE Structure

 

Caution: EXT Email

Hi All,


I have prepared an r3 which incorporates feedback received from several members:

 

https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/20/11-20-1274-03-00be-mac-pdt-mlo-ml-ie-structure.docx

 

Regards,

Abhi

 

From: Abhishek Patil <appatil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2020 1:47 PM
To: Abhishek Patil <appatil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; STDS-802-11-TGBE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: PDT MAC MLO Discovery: ML IE Structure

 

Hi All,

 

I’ve posted r2 which incorporates feedback from Laurent and Jay.

https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/20/11-20-1274-02-00be-mac-pdt-mlo-ml-ie-structure.docx

 

Regards,
Abhi

 

From: Abhishek Patil <appatil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2020 8:20 PM
To: STDS-802-11-TGBE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBE] PDT MAC MLO Discovery: ML IE Structure

 

CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization.

Hi All,

 

I have revised my PDT doc (on ML IE) based on feedback received so far.

 

https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/20/11-20-1274-01-00be-mac-pdt-mlo-ml-ie-structure.docx

 

Could you please review and let me know if you have any further inputs?

 

Regards,

Abhi

 

From: Abhishek Patil
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2020 8:51 PM
To: STDS-802-11-TGBE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: PDT MAC MLO Discovery: ML IE Structure

 

Hello to all TTT members for MLO Discovery: ML IE Structure,

 

I have posted document 11-20/1274 which provides draft text for MLO power save procedures.

https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/20/11-20-1274-00-00be-mac-pdt-mlo-ml-ie-structure.docx

 

Could you please review and let me know if you have any inputs?

 

Regards,
Abhi

 


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