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Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBF] 答复: [STDS-802-11-TGBF] 答���: [STDS-802-11-TGBF] TGbf meeting on November 1 (Monday) and 2 (Tuesday), 10:00am – 12:00pm ET

Hi Xiandong,

Please see comments inline.

BR,
Chaoming
发件人： 董贤东
发送时间： 2021-11-04 09:58
收件人： luochaoming@xxxxxxxx; STDS-802-11-TGBF@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
主题： 答复: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBF] 答复: [STDS-802-11-TGBF] TGbf meeting on November 1 (Monday) and 2 (Tuesday), 10:00am – 12:00pm ET

Hi Chaoming,

 

Thanks for your prompt response, please see my further comment below, thanks.

 

Best regards

Xiandong Dong

 

发件人: luochaoming@xxxxxxxx <luochaoming@xxxxxxxx>
发送时间: 2021年11月3日 18:29
收件人: 董贤东 <dongxiandong@xxxxxxxxxx>; STDS-802-11-TGBF@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
主题: Re: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBF] 答复: [STDS-802-11-TGBF] TGbf meeting on November 1 (Monday) and 2 (Tuesday), 10:00am – 12:00pm ET

 

Hi Xiandong,

 

Thanks for your comments!  IMHO, that depends on the senario and depends on the actual meaning of the word "latest". 

If "latest" refers to the measurement result of the current measurement instance, then as illustrated in slide 6 of 21/1438r1, both "included" and "not included" cases would happen, as showed for STA 3 instance 2 which is "not included" case, and STA 3 instance 3 which is "included" case.

[dxd]: if the latest measurement result is the measurement result of the current measurement instance and is included in the report frame, then how  can be the latest measurement be recognized as “delayed feedback” or “regular/immediate feedback”?

[cm] To be simple, in the example above, the "latest" result of instance 2 is not ready (will be "delayed" ) at the time of reporting, and the "latest" result of instance 3 is ready (is "immediate").  If the "latest" refers to the current one (logically it exists, but may be not ready at the time of current reporting), whether itself will be in the report frame of the current instance, it depends on both the capability of the STA and the Initiator, as we have discussed in the meeting (again, thanks to Ali's clarification). If the result of the current instance is not ready, the Initiator knows it will be delayed (could be estimated according to STA's capability info and sounding parameters of the current instance), and possibly will try to obtain it in the next instance. If the result of the current instance is ready, the Initiator also knows it is immediate report.

 

If "latest" refers to the measurement result of the measurement instance exactly one before the current, as we discussed in the meeting, STA 3 may include it in the report of the current instance, otherwise, if the "latest" result is not ready STA 3 should not participate in the current instance, to avoid more than one delayed reports get accumulated. (However, this is not the focus of the SP/Motion, we may have further contributions to address it)

Hope that addresses your concern.

 

BR,

Chaoming

 

发件人： 董贤东

发送时间： 2021-11-03 18:00

主题： Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBF] 答复: [STDS-802-11-TGBF] TGbf meeting on November 1 (Monday) and 2 (Tuesday), 10:00am – 12:00pm ET

Hi Chaoming,

 

I have a question to clarify, I wonder whether the latest measurement result is included in the measurement report frame, thanks.

 

Best regards

Xiandong Dong

 

发件人: luochaoming@xxxxxxxx <000015d97e832564-dmarc-request@xxxxxxxx>
发送时间: 2021年11月3日 16:34
收件人: STDS-802-11-TGBF@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
主题: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBF] 答复: [STDS-802-11-TGBF] TGbf meeting on November 1 (Monday) and 2 (Tuesday), 10:00am – 12:00pm ET

 

Hi Tony,

 

I would like to submit 1 motion request as the following:

 

Motion 1

Do you agree to add the following into 11bf SFD ? 

  • In reporting phase, the measurement results from multiple measurement setups of a sensing responder may be included in a single measurement report frame for delayed reporting.
    • Support for obtaining more than one measurement results in a single measurement report frame sent by the responder is optional for the initiator.
    • Support for buffering more than one measurement result and sending it in a single measurement report frame to the initiator is optional for the responder.

Corresponding document  21/1438r1,  SP results: 16Yes, 5 No, 13 Abstain

 

BR,

Chaoming

 

发件人： Hanxiao (Tony, WT Lab)

发送时间： 2021-11-03 16:23

主题： 答复: [STDS-802-11-TGBF] TGbf meeting on November 1 (Monday) and 2 (Tuesday), 10:00am – 12:00pm ET

AddedJ

 

 

Best Regards : )

Tony Xiao Han

 

发件人: 장인선 [mailto:insun.jang@xxxxxxx]
发送时间: 2021年11月3日 15:14
收件人: STDS-802-11-TGBF@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
主题: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBF] TGbf meeting on November 1 (Monday) and 2 (Tuesday), 10:00am – 12:00pm ET

 

Hi Tony

 

Could you please add the following documents to the agenda?

- 1736r0, Role Negotiation in WLAN Sensing Procedure (Insun Jang (LG Electronics), 30min

- 1735r0, Procedure of Sensing Measurement Setup (Insun Jang (LG Electronics), 30min

(1736 would be the first)

 

Thanks

Best Regards

Insun

 

From: Hanxiao (Tony, WT Lab) [mailto:tony.hanxiao@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2021 10:41 AM
To: STDS-802-11-TGBF@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [STDS-802-11-TGBF] TGbf meeting on November 1 (Monday) and 2 (Tuesday), 10:00am – 12:00pm ET

 

Dear all,

This is a reminder and call for submissions for the upcoming meeting on November 1 (Monday) and 2  (Tuesday), 10:00am – 12:00pm ET. 

 

Please note:

1.      Please send the agenda request at least 24 hours prior to the call, following the format below:

•     DCN, Title, Author (affiliation), Time duration

2.      I will cancel the call if there is no request received 24 hours prior to a call.

3.      Please upload your submissions (revision 0) on mentor 24 hours prior to the meeting so that members would have a chance to review those submissions offline. Otherwise,

a.      If there is not enough time during the meeting, the presentation will be delayed to the next meeting.

b.      If there is enough time during the meeting, the presentation will be moved to the end of the queue and be presented in the end. However, any related SP should be delayed to the next meeting.

4.      Please send the motion request around 10+5 days before the meeting (for teleconference, not for Plenary or Interim meeting), so that the TG chair could send the 10 day advance notice to the 802.11 reflector, after getting the approval from the WG chair.

5.      Dial-in information:

 

November 1 (Monday)

Join the Webex meeting here: https://ieeesa.webex.com/ieeesa/j.php?MTID=m752c22ca2bc5f3bc40542061cd924f75

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November 2  (Tuesday)

Join the Webex meeting here: https://ieeesa.webex.com/ieeesa/j.php?MTID=m4d051bcccbd932e68816953f79f9bb23

Meeting number: 234 845 41802

Meeting password: wireless (94735377 from phones and video systems)

Join by phone: Tap to call in from a mobile device (attendees only) +1-408-418-9388 USA Toll
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Access code: 234 845 41802

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Best Regards : )

Tony Xiao Han

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