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[STDS-802-11-TGBF] 答复: Motion request



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Best Regards : )

Tony Xiao Han

 

发件人: durui (D)
发送时间: 2021年12月10日 10:58
收件人: STDS-802-11-TGBF@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Hanxiao (Tony, WT Lab) <tony.hanxiao@xxxxxxxxxx>
主题: 答复: Motion request

 

Hi Tony,

 

With some offline discussions, I would like to modify the motion text as follows.

Many thanks.

 

l  Motion text

Move to add the following to the TGbf SFD:

–      DMG/EDMG-based WLAN sensing supports both monostatic sensing and monostatic sensing with coordination configurations.

–      In the monostatic sensing with coordination configuration, the transmissions of one or more devices that perform monostatic sensing are coordinated by a PCP/AP.

 

 

Best wishes,

Rui Du

 

发件人: Claudio Da Silva [mailto:claudiodasilva@xxxxxx]
发送时间: 2021年12月9日 2:56
收件人: durui (D) <ray.du@xxxxxxxxxx>; STDS-802-11-TGBF@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
主题: RE: Motion request

 

Rui,

 

I’d like to propose two sets of changes to your text to solve ambiguity.

  1. What are “sensing modes”?  To avoid using this undefined term, I suggest rewriting the first sentence as follows: “DMG/EDMG-based WLAN sensing supports both monostatic and monostatic with coordination configurations.”
  2. And for the second sentence: “The definition of the monostatic with coordination configuration is TBD”. 
    1. Side note: If you could already provide a basic definition of this configuration, such as “in the monostatic with coordination configuration, the transmissions of multiple devices that perform monostatic sensing is coordinated by a PCP/AP (?)”, please do so.

Thanks,

 

Claudio

 

From: durui (D) <000017788cb650b9-dmarc-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, December 7, 2021 11:43 PM
To: STDS-802-11-TGBF@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [STDS-802-11-TGBF]
答复: Motion request

 

Hi Tony,

 

I would appreciate if you could run the motion below in a future meeting as appropriate. Thanks.

The reference document is 11-21/1914r0. 

 

l  Motion text

Move to add the following to the TGbf SFD:

–      Monostatic radar and multiple monostatic radars with coordination are two of the sensing modes for 60GHz WLAN sensing.

–      The detailed information of the multiple monostatic radars coordination is TBD.

 

 

Best wishes,

Rui Du

 

发件人: Chen, Cheng [mailto:cheng.chen@xxxxxxxxx]
发送时间: 2021年12月8日 9:32
收件人: STDS-802-11-TGBF@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
主题: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBF] Motion request

 

Hi Tony,

 

I received an offline comment and would like to update the motion text as follows.

 

Move to add the following to the TGbf SFD:

–        11bf shall define a non-Trigger based (non-TB) sensing measurement instance as follows:

•        One non-AP STA is the sensing initiator and one AP is the sensing responder.

•        Once the non-AP STA obtains a TXOP, it shall initiates a non-TB sensing measurement instance by transmitting an NDPA frame to the AP followed by an Initiator-to-Responder (I2R) NDP SIFS after. SIFS after the I2R NDP, the AP shall transmit a Responder-to-Initiator (R2I) NDP to the non-AP STA.

•        If the non-AP STA is only the sensing transmitter, then the NDPA frame should configure the R2I NDP to be transmitted with minimum possible length with one LTF symbol.

•        If the non-AP STA is only the sensing receiver, then the NDPA frame should configure the I2R NDP to be transmitted with minimum possible length with one LTF symbol.

•        The details of the NDPA frame are TBD.

 

The comment is that the current text may confuse people because it sounds like whenever a non-AP STA gets a TXOP, it must always initiate a non-TB sensing measurement instance, which is surely not what I am trying to propose. The modified text will avoid such confusion and make it more clear.

 

Best,

Cheng

 

From: Chen, Cheng
Sent: Tuesday, December 7, 2021 7:49 AM
To: STDS-802-11-TGBF@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Motion request

 

Hi Tony,

 

I would appreciate if you could run the motion below in a future meeting as appropriate. Thanks.

The reference document is 11-21/1433r2.  SP result was 19/4/13.

 

Move to add the following to the TGbf SFD:

–        11bf shall define a non-Trigger based (non-TB) sensing measurement instance as follows:

•        One non-AP STA is the sensing initiator and one AP is the sensing responder.

•        Once the non-AP STA obtains a TXOP, it shall initiate a non-TB sensing measurement instance by transmitting an NDPA frame to the AP followed by an Initiator-to-Responder (I2R) NDP SIFS after. SIFS after the I2R NDP, the AP shall transmit a Responder-to-Initiator (R2I) NDP to the non-AP STA.

•        If the non-AP STA is only the sensing transmitter, then the NDPA frame should configure the R2I NDP to be transmitted with minimum possible length with one LTF symbol.

•        If the non-AP STA is only the sensing receiver, then the NDPA frame should configure the I2R NDP to be transmitted with minimum possible length with one LTF symbol.

•        The details of the NDPA frame are TBD.

 

 

Best,

Cheng

 

 

From: Claudio Da Silva <000015f3cbee3aeb-dmarc-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2021 10:59 AM
To: STDS-802-11-TGBF@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [STDS-802-11-TGBF] Motion request

 

Tony,

 

I would appreciate if you could run the motion below in a future meeting as appropriate.

The reference document is 11-21/1692r4.  SP result was 30/2/8.

Thanks,

 

Claudio

 

 

Move to add the following to the TGbf SFD:

 

A sensing by proxy (SBP) procedure is defined in which:

  • An “SBP request” consists of a non-AP STA sending an SBP Request frame to an SBP-capable AP STA.
    • An STA that sends an SBP Request frame to invoke SBP (and, as a result, WLAN sensing) is denoted by “SBP requesting STA”.
    • The format and contents of the SBP Request frame are TBD.
  • An AP STA that receives an SBP request shall send to the SBP requesting STA an SBP Response frame to accept or reject the request.
    • The format and contents of the SBP Response frame are TBD.
  • An AP STA that accepts an SBP request shall initiate WLAN sensing procedure(s) with one or more non-AP STA(s) using operational parameters derived from those indicated within the SBP Request frame.
  • Measurement results obtained in WLAN sensing procedure(s) resultant from an SBP request shall be reported to the SBP requesting STA.

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