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Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] [EXT] [STDS-802-11-TGBN] Tracking TBDs in TGbn D0.3



Sometimes it is not the maximum value of the padding delay since the padding for different feature may starts from the different location in the Trigger frame.

[cm] Would you elaborate more on what is the case in your mind for this? Based on the current draft, the recipient is expected to start switching when the padding starts, no?

 

发件人: Liwen Chu <liwen.chu@xxxxxxx>
发送时间: 202573 12:51
收件人: 罗朝明(Chaoming Luo) <luochaoming@xxxxxxxx>; STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
主题: RE: [EXT] [STDS-802-11-TGBN] Tracking TBDs in TGbn D0.3

 

Hi Chaoming,

 

Thanks. Please find my replies below.

 

Best Regards,

Liwen

 

From: 罗朝明(Chaoming Luo) <luochaoming@xxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, July 2, 2025 9:04 PM
To: Liwen Chu <liwen.chu@xxxxxxx>; STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [EXT] [STDS-802-11-TGBN] Tracking TBDs in TGbn D0.3

 

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Hi Liwen,

 

For 1090r0, a max of 256 us with unit of 4 us does not need 8 bits. Or, you may add text saying 65 to 255 are reserved.

[Liwen]The maximum value of 256us with unit of 4us implies 65 to 255 are reserved.

 

For 1097r0, Im wondering whether it is possible to solicit a DPS STA switching to HC mode (e.g., 160 MHz) and switching to the DSO subband (e.g., S160 in 320 MHz) at one shot.  In such a case, a max of DPS padding delay and DSO padding delay would be needed.

[Liwen] Yes it is possible. The following change in 1097 is the related text

The padding shall satisfy the padding requirement of each feature enabled by the UHR STA independently where the padding requirement is

the value in the UHR STA’s DPS Padding Delay field for enabled DPS feature,

the value in the UHR STA’s  DSO Padding Delay field for enabled DSO feature,

the value in the EMLSR Padding Delay field of the non-MLD with which the UHR STA is affiliated for enabled EMLSR feature.

“satisfy the padding requirement of each feature enabled by the UHR STA independently” means the maximum value of DPS padding delay and DSO switch delay in your example. Sometimes it is not the maximum value of the padding delay since the padding for different feature may starts from the different location in the Trigger frame. That is why the text in 1097 is proposed.

 

BR,

Chaoming

 

发件人: Liwen Chu <liwen.chu@xxxxxxx>
发送时间: 202572 3:42
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主题: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] [EXT] [STDS-802-11-TGBN] Tracking TBDs in TGbn D0.3

 

Hi Alfred,

 

Please add the following contribution to the MAC agenda

https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/25/11-25-1097-00-00bn-cc50-mac-cids-in-clause-37-14.docx

 

Best Regards,

Liwen

 

From: Liwen Chu
Sent: Tuesday, July 1, 2025 7:59 AM
To: asterjadhi@xxxxxxxxx; STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [EXT] [STDS-802-11-TGBN] Tracking TBDs in TGbn D0.3

 

Hi Alfred,

 

Please add the following contribution to the MAC agenda

https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/25/11-25-1094-00-00bn-cr-cc50-mac-cids-in-clause-37-13.docx

 

Best Regards,

Liwen

 

From: Liwen Chu
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2025 9:26 AM
To: asterjadhi@xxxxxxxxx; STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [EXT] [STDS-802-11-TGBN] Tracking TBDs in TGbn D0.3

 

Hi Alfred,

 

Please add the following contribution to the MAC agenda

https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/25/11-25-1090-00-00bn-cr-cc50-mac-cids-in-clause-9-4-1-85.docx

 

I will upload my other contributions by the end of this week.

 

Best Regards,

Liwen

 

From: Alfred Asterjadhi <asterjadhi@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2025 2:09 PM
To: STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [EXT] [STDS-802-11-TGBN] Tracking TBDs in TGbn D0.3

 

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Hello all,

 

I ported the table that Ross prepared to our teleconference agenda and am tracking with requests and progress in the CR stage. POCs, please help populate the missing rows.

 

Tracking of TBDs in TGbn D0.3.

 

 

Clause

Topic

PoC

TBDs

Notes

Clause 6

 

Yan Li

6

 

Clause 9

9.2.4.6.4 HE variant

Liwen Chu

2

 

9.3.1.22 Trigger frame format

Alice Chen

18

 

9.4.1.85 DPS Operation Parameters

Liwen Chu

5

 

9.4.2.aa1 UHR Operation Element

Ming Gan

6

 

9.4.2.aa2 UHR Capabilities element

Ming Gan

2

 

9.6.7.69 MAPC Request frame format

Arik Klein

2

 Resolved in 11-25/0599r13

9.6.7.70 MAPC Response frame format

Arik Klein

2

 Resolved in 11-25/0599r13

9.6.10 Protected Dual of Public Action frame details

Jay Yang

2

 

Clause 37

37.5 Prioritized EDCA

Dmitry Akhmetov

1

 

37.6 UHR Acknowledgement Procedure

Ming Gan

1

Ack procedure for ELR

37.14 SMD BSS transition

Duncan Ho

14

 

37.15 Power management

Liwen Chu

17

 

37.16 Non-primary channel access (NPCA)

Matthew Fischer

16

 

37.17 Unavailability reporting and parameter updates

Laurent Cariou

37

37.17.2: Resolved in 25/437 (Laurent)

37.17.3, 37.17.4: Resolved in 25/508 (Laurent)

37.17.5: Resolved in 25/744 (Sherief)

37.20 Padding for an ICF

Liwen Chu

1

 

37.22 Low Latency Indication

Mohamed Abouelseoud

3

 

Clause 38

38.3.5 Interference mitigation

Shimi Shilo

13

 

38.3.16.8 Pilot subcarriers

Chenchen Liu

5

 

38.3.22 Coordinated spatial reuse

Jason Yuchen Guo

1

 

Annex C

 

Yan Li

1

 

 

Total

 

155

 

 

Regards,

 

AA

 

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Alfred Asterjadhi, PhD

IEEE802.11 TGbe/TGbn Chair,

Qualcomm Technologies Inc.

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