Hi Liwen,
I think you may have missed my comments in my previous email on 11-25/1094.
Basically, I would like to check if the paragraph (including the bullets) starting with “(#2504, 3668)
If a non-AP STA that is operating in EMLSR mode…” is intended to be informative or as normative behaviour. The current text seems to be writing as informative (“is treated as if”). If that is the intention, then it is fine. Otherwise, suppose it should be
something like (“shall be
treated as if”)
Secondly, I believe the bullets with “…if the TXOP responder…” could use commas before the “if” to prevent
a wrong interpretation of the text. (I.e., “…,
if the TXOP responder…”). With the commas, I would understand it as the field preceding the comma is not considered unless the condition after the comma is fulfilled. Without the commas,
I may understand it as the field when the condition is fulfilled is always considered.
Please let me know if I have any misunderstanding or incorrect interpretation of the text.
Best regards,
Gaius
From: Gaius Yao Huang Wee
Sent: Thursday, 24 July 2025 10:35 pm
To: Liwen Chu <liwen.chu@xxxxxxx>; STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [EXT] [STDS-802-11-TGBN] Tracking TBDs in TGbn D0.3
Hi Liwen,
The text is slightly ambiguous to me.
“is treated as if” – what is the text directed at? Is this an informative paragraph or should it be instructing some behaviour? I suppose it is intended to have normative text. E.g., …shall
be treated by the ??
as if…
And if my understanding of the intent is not wrong, it may help to add comma’s between “field” and “if” in the last paragraph bullets.
I.e.,
• the NPCA Switch Back Delay field, if the TXOP responder switches back to the primary channel,
• the DPS Transition Delay field, if the TXOP responder switches back to LC mode,
• the DSO Switchback Delay field, if the TXOP responder switches back to the primary channel from the DSO subband,
Otherwise it might seem that the maximum value has to consider the fields of all scenarios at all times.
Or please correct me if my understanding is incorrect.
Thanks.
Best regards,
Gaius
From: Liwen Chu <liwen.chu@xxxxxxx>
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Hi Mark,
Thanks. Please find the updated document per your comments.
Best Regards,
Liwen
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I attach some comments on 25/1094r2.
Thanks,
Mark
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From: Liwen Chu <liwen.chu@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, 1 July 2025 15:59
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Hi Alfred,
Please add the following contribution to the MAC agenda
https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/25/11-25-1094-00-00bn-cr-cc50-mac-cids-in-clause-37-13.docx
Best Regards,
Liwen
From: Liwen Chu
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2025 9:26 AM
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Hi Alfred,
Please add the following contribution to the MAC agenda
https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/25/11-25-1090-00-00bn-cr-cc50-mac-cids-in-clause-9-4-1-85.docx
I will upload my other contributions by the end of this week.
Best Regards,
Liwen
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Hello all,
I ported the table that Ross prepared to our teleconference agenda and am tracking with requests and progress in the CR stage. POCs, please help populate the missing rows.
Tracking of TBDs in TGbn D0.3.
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Clause |
Topic |
PoC |
TBDs |
Notes |
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Clause 6 |
|
Yan Li |
6 |
|
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Clause 9 |
9.2.4.6.4 HE variant |
Liwen Chu |
2 |
|
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9.3.1.22 Trigger frame format |
Alice Chen |
18 |
|
|
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9.4.1.85 DPS Operation Parameters |
Liwen Chu |
5 |
|
|
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9.4.2.aa1 UHR Operation Element |
Ming Gan |
6 |
|
|
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9.4.2.aa2 UHR Capabilities element |
Ming Gan |
2 |
|
|
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9.6.7.69 MAPC Request frame format |
Arik Klein |
2 |
Resolved in 11-25/0599r13 |
|
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9.6.7.70 MAPC Response frame format |
Arik Klein |
2 |
Resolved in 11-25/0599r13 |
|
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9.6.10 Protected Dual of Public Action frame details |
Jay Yang |
2 |
|
|
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Clause 37 |
37.5 Prioritized EDCA |
Dmitry Akhmetov |
1 |
|
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37.6 UHR Acknowledgement Procedure |
Ming Gan |
1 |
Ack procedure for ELR |
|
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37.14 SMD BSS transition |
Duncan Ho |
14 |
|
|
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37.15 Power management |
Liwen Chu |
17 |
|
|
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37.16 Non-primary channel access (NPCA) |
Matthew Fischer |
16 |
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37.17 Unavailability reporting and parameter updates |
Laurent Cariou |
37 |
37.17.2: Resolved in
25/437
(Laurent) 37.17.3, 37.17.4: Resolved in
25/508
(Laurent) 37.17.5: Resolved in
25/744
(Sherief) |
|
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37.20 Padding for an ICF |
Liwen Chu |
1 |
|
|
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37.22 Low Latency Indication |
Mohamed Abouelseoud |
3 |
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Clause 38 |
38.3.5 Interference mitigation |
Shimi Shilo |
13 |
|
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38.3.16.8 Pilot subcarriers |
Chenchen Liu |
5 |
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38.3.22 Coordinated spatial reuse |
Jason Yuchen Guo |
1 |
|
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Annex C |
|
Yan Li |
1 |
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Total |
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155 |
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Regards,
AA
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IEEE802.11 TGbe/TGbn Chair,
Qualcomm Technologies Inc.
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