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Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] MAC PDT: CID Resolution CC50 for Co-RTWT

Hi, Giovanni
Thanks for your hard work.

I have a comment about Co-RTWT Negotiation part. (P29L3, 37.13.2.4.2 Co-RTWT Negotiations)
Additionally, when the AP
provi
des a response for a specific R-TWT schedule
by setting the MAPC Operation Type field carried in
the
MAPC Scheme Request field
associated with the specific R-TWT schedule
to 5
, the
MAPC Request Parameter Set field containing the suggested par
ameters for this Co-RTWT agreement
shall be
included
.

According to the text, the expected behavior is that the Co-RTWT requesting AP modifies its R-TWT schedule and requests again.

However, the 'Alternate' response from Co-RTWT responding AP is different from individual TWT's negotiation.
  1. The Co-RTWT responding AP transmits suggested parameter regarding the requesting AP's schedule information, How does the responding AP know the requesting AP's R-TWT schedule info?
     
  2. Unlike individual TWT negotiation, it is difficult that the Co-RTWT requesting AP modifies its R-TWT schedule for requesting again.
  • To modify its R-TWT schedule for requesting again, the Co-RTWT requesting AP shall transmit the Beacon frame that includes modified its R-TWT schedule before sending the MAPC Negotiation request frame again.
    
I think when the Co-RTWT responding AP sends 'alternate' response, the Co-RTWT Negotiation response frame may contain the reason why it is rejected.

So, I want to discuss further on this text, can you run the SP without this text?  

Best Regards,
Hank 

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[MAC PDT: CID Resolution CC50 for Co-RTWT]

One more clarification (thanks Yongho).

 

R4 is on mentor: https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/25/11-25-1177-04-00bn-cid-resolution-cc50-for-cortwt.docx

 

Best,

Giovanni

 

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[MAC PDT: CID Resolution CC50 for Co-RTWT]

Dear Alfred,

 

Pending discussions have been concluded, and the document (R3) is ready for SP on my side.

 

Thanks Yunbo, Yongho, Yanjun, Gaius for the engagement!

 

Do you agree to  incorporate the proposed text changes and the resolutions to the CIDs [24C] in 11-25/1177r3 to the latest TGbn draft?:

  • 831, 894, 1438, 1714, 1868, 1909, 1911, 2206, 2210, 2695, 2837, 2838, 3152, 3153, 3154, 3155, 3583, 3584, 3711, 3735, 3752, 3754, 3794, 3813, 11-25/1177 [24 CIDs]

 

 

R3 is uploaded on mentor: https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/25/11-25-1177-03-00bn-cid-resolution-cc50-for-cortwt.docx

 

 

Best,

Giovanni

 

 

 

From: Giovanni Chisci <gchisci@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2025 6:42 PM
To: Giovanni Chisci <gchisci@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Alfred Asterjadhi <asterjadhi@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: MAC PDT: CID Resolution CC50 for Co-RTWT

 

MAC PDT: CID Resolution CC50 for Co-RTWT]

Dear Alfred,

 

Could you please help queueing the SP for the following PDT for IEEE meeting in Madrid?

 

Do you agree to  incorporate the proposed text changes and the resolutions to the CIDs [24C] in 11-25/1177r2 to the latest TGbn draft?:

  • 831, 894, 1438, 1714, 1868, 1909, 1911, 2206, 2210, 2695, 2837, 2838, 3152, 3153, 3154, 3155, 3583, 3584, 3711, 3735, 3752, 3754, 3794, 3813, 11-25/1177 [24 CIDs]

 

 

R2 is uploaded on mentor: https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/25/11-25-1177-02-00bn-cid-resolution-cc50-for-cortwt.docx

 

There are still some ongoing discussions for one edit, which I assume will be resolved early next week, therefore I would kindly request to consider as first possible date to run the SP Tuesday 29 July. I a change is applied, I will upload and announce r3.

 

Best,

Giovanni

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Dear all,

 

R2 is uploaded on mentor: https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/25/11-25-1177-02-00bn-cid-resolution-cc50-for-cortwt.docx

 

Best,

Giovanni

 

 

From: Giovanni Chisci <gchisci@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2025 5:58 PM
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Subject: RE: MAC PDT: CID Resolution CC50 for Co-RTWT

 

[MAC PDT: CID Resolution CC50 for Co-RTWT]

Dear all,

 

R1 is uploaded on mentor: https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/25/11-25-1177-01-00bn-cid-resolution-cc50-for-cortwt.docx

 

Best,

Giovanni

 

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Subject: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] MAC PDT: CID Resolution CC50 for Co-RTWT

 

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[MAC PDT: CID Resolution CC50 for Co-RTWT]

 

Dear all,

 

I prepared a document to resolve remaining CIDs for Co-RTWT.

 

Co-RTWT CIDs (28 are resolved):

831, 894, 1438, 1714, 1868, 1909, 1911, 1995, 1996, 2206, 2210, 2695, 2837, 2838, 3152, 3153, 3154, 3155, 3451, 3452, 3583, 3584, 3711, 3735, 3752, 3754, 3794, 3813,

 

Please find the document at the following location (@Alfred Asterjadhi please feel free to update the link on agenda):

https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/25/11-25-1177-00-00bn-cid-resolution-cc50-for-cortwt.docx

 

Please let me know if you have any comment by replying to this thread.

 

Thank you in advance,

Giovanni

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