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Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] Request agenda time for presenting 25/1939 Co-RTWT Part 4



 

Hi Giovanni,

 

I have not been in the discussion, but please allow me to provide some comments on your 25/1939r5:

l  When Nominal Minimum TWT Wake Duration/UHR Target Wake Time Extension field is used as UHR Target Wake Time Extension field, Wake Duration Unit field is no longer used, but I don’t see how it will be set in this case (expecting that Wake Duration Unit field will be set to 0, not meaning the unit is 256 us but meaning reserved). Just in case to avoid a future compatibility issue, I think it should be specified.

l  The proposed way of defining the fields seems to eliminate the possibility of any other granularity other than 64 us or 1TU in the future. Is this OK? (Just want to confirm this is the group’s direction.)

l  In p.13, where the first paragraph is changed, it says “For a non-UHR STA, the Nominal Minimum TWT Wake Duration/UHR Target Wake Time Extension field of the Broadcast TWT Parameter Set field is the Nominal Minimum TWT Wake Duration field.” But a UHR STA not supporting the UHR HG RTWT will interpret this field as the Nominal Minimum TWT Wake Duration field as well. Correct? No need to add such description?

l  How do you read “HG”? Better to change “a HG …” to “an HG …”?

l  Last sentence just before 37.14.2.4.3 in p.18, “… the TSF timer of the HG RTWT AP that transmit the …” à “… the TSF timer of the HG RTWT AP that transmits the …”

l  I wonder why HG RTWT is not specified under 37.14.2.4, 37.14.2, or 37.14, but just under 37.

 

Best regards,

tomo

 

From: Giovanni Chisci <00002b657bbbbed7-dmarc-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2026 11:30 PM
To: STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] Request agenda time for presenting 25/1939 Co-RTWT Part 4

 

[Co-RTWT TTT - Part 4 r5 uploaded - please review]

 

Dear all, uploaded r5 with revision number alignment

 

@Guoyuchen (Jason Yuchen Guo), @Cariou, Laurent, @Liwen Chu, @Abhishek Patil, since you had made comments during the call on the client capability for HG RTWT, please engage in discussion so that we can run the SP on Monday.

 

My recommendation is to keep the client capability since more than one member had strong concerns in mandating that a UHR STA that supports EHT RTWT also shall support the UHR HG RTWT.

 

On the technical aspects, while it is important to represent the coordinated AP's RTWT SP start time in the most accurate way, and have (in the sunny day case) all clients understanding the start point with the highest possible granularity, if in some cases a set of STAs do not support it, it means that the help to the CoRTWT schedule is to a lesser extent comparatively to the best case, but there is no performance degradation. There is still flexibility for deployments to use (or not) clients that support the HG RTWT, according to the application requirements.

 

Best,

Giovanni

 

 


From: Giovanni Chisci <00002b657bbbbed7-dmarc-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2026 18:59
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Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] Request agenda time for presenting 25/1939 Co-RTWT Part 4

 

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[Co-RTWT TTT - Part 4 r4 uploaded - please review]

 

Dear all, I uploaded a new revision to fix a deletion error.

 

Best,

Giovanni


From: Giovanni Chisci <gchisci@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2026 16:55
To: STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Giovanni Chisci <gchisci@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Alfred Asterjadhi <asterjadhi@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Request agenda time for presenting 25/1939 Co-RTWT Part 4

 

[Co-RTWT TTT - Part 4 uploaded - please review]

 

Dear @Alfred Asterjadhi

 

Could you please add this document to the agenda? Was presented in May Ad-Hoc, I have incorporated the feedback I received and I am hereby queueing for SP.

2025

1939

0

TGbn

LB291 CR for CoRTWT Part4

https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/25/11-25-1939-03-00bn-lb291-cr-for-cortwt-part4.docx

Full list (16 CIDs): 4133 4134 5092 8114 8115 8116 9375 10041 10042 11379 11380 11682 11960 11962 12041 12042

 

To the Co-RTWT TTT, please review and let me know if you have any feedback.

 

Best,

Giovanni

 

 

 

 

 


From: Giovanni Chisci <00002b657bbbbed7-dmarc-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2026 16:22
To: STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] Reminder: Planning towards July F2F

 

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For my part I have the following documents:

 

  1.  

2025

1939

2

TGbn

LB291 CR for CoRTWT Part4

  1.  
    • Queue for SP 25/1939r3 (to be uploaded), 25 CIDs, target agenda slot from Thursday June 11

 

  1.  

2026

744

0

TGbn

LB291 CR for CoRTWT Part8

  1.  
    • Queue for presentation 26/0744r0 (to be uploaded), 18 CIDs, targeting agenda slot from Thursday June 18
  1.  

2026

60

4

TGbn

LB291 CR for ST Part2

  1.  
    • Queue for SP 26/0060r5 (to be uploaded), 27 CIDs, target agenda slot from Monday June 22
  1.  

2026

1171

0

TGbn

LB291 CR for CoRTWT Part9

 

    • Queue for presentation 26/1171r0 (to be uploaded), 5 CIDs, target agenda slot from Thursday June 25

 

Additionally, would kindly request @Yujian (Ross Yu) to update the 25/1772 to reflect current assignments for following CIDs:

  • 6533 8363 8381 10255 10725 to SunHee Baek
  • 10686 to Brian Hart

 

Thank you in advance,

Giovanni


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Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2026 15:10
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Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] Reminder: Planning towards July F2F

 

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Hi Alfred,


Could you please help queue the following documents to the TGbn MAC agenda:

  • 11-25/2365: LB291: CR for CIDs assigned to Abhi - 37.32 - Part 2 (~26 CIDs)
  • 11-26/1169: LB291: CR for CIDs assigned to Abhi - 37.16 - part 3 (~10 CIDs)
  • 11-26/1170: LB291: CR for CIDs assigned to Abhi - 37.32 - Part 3 (~26 CIDs)

 

The contributions will be ready in early July. I will let you know if I have any of them ready sooner.


The above would resolve all the pending CIDs assigned to me.

 

Regards,
Abhi

 

 

From: Alfred Asterjadhi <asterjadhi@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2026 10:06 AM
To: STDS-802-11-TGBN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [STDS-802-11-TGBN] Reminder: Planning towards July F2F

 

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Hello all,

 

Please consider this as a gentle reminder for the deadline below:

"

Please make sure that you send a CR submission request no later than June 5th, 2026, anywhere on earth (AOE)

    • If the submission is not uploaded when the CR submission request is sent then please provide an ETA as to when the CR is ready to be presented (making sure that the CR submission is uploaded at least 24 hours prior to that meeting slot)

"

 

Regards,

 

Alfred

 

On Fri, May 29, 2026 at 8:36AM Alfred Asterjadhi <asterjadhi@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hello all,

 

I am extending the announcement we made during the May 28th meeting and setting some deadlines so that we can plan for the next couple of months.

  • Planning:
    • Prioritization of CRs will continue as usual, except that temporarily expanded the time allocated to MAC normal CR queue to one hour
    • Green tagging will continue as usual, except that-when possible, green tagging will be performed also on CRs from normal MAC queue.
    • Joint meeting slots will continue to dedicate time for prioritized MAC CRs
  • Call for prioritized submissions and submissions from top 40 assignees:
    • There is limited number of CR submissions with ≥10 CIDs.
  • Please submit CRs with ≥10 CIDs so that they can be prioritised
    • There is a limited number of CR submissions from the top 20 assignees.
  • Please submit CRs (preferably with ≥10 CIDs) and send requests/upload them as soon as possible (upload at least 24 hours in advance of the scheduled meeting slot).
  • Alternatively provide ETAs as to when ready to present.

In summary, if you are planning a CR submission (the items below are highly recommended for MAC CR submissions, and advisory for PHY/Joint CR submission): 

  • Please make sure that you send a CR submission request no later than June 5th, 2026, anywhere on earth (AOE)
    • If the submission is not uploaded when the CR submission request is sent then please provide an ETA as to when the CR is ready to be presented (making sure that the CR submission is uploaded at least 24 hours prior to that meeting slot)
  •  Please share the CR submissions with the TGbn group via the reflector as early as possible to seek early feedback from members.

Let me know if you have any questions.

 

Regards,


Alfred

 

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Qualcomm Technologies Inc.

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Qualcomm Technologies Inc.

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