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Hello Sigurd and all,
Holidays are always a difficult issue. It is up to individuals
to use their time effectively and turn in a ballot on time, and
it has ever been thus.
We voted in the working group for a 30 day ballot, and I see no
reason to change it. The ballot will be extended if the return
ratio is insufficient.
Sincerely,
Adrian Stephens
IEEE 802.11 Working Group Chair
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On 2016-12-02 17:41, Sigurd
Schelstraete wrote:
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Hi
Jon,
Thanks
for your reply. A couple of comments still:
1.
We
agreed to a 30-day review on November 11. The draft came out
on December 1st. If the ballot period had opened
earlier (say the week after the meeting), the issue would
not have arisen. We signed a bit of a blank check by
agreeing to a 30-day period without knowing when it would
start. 30 days starting Nov 18 is not the same as 30 days
starting Dec 1st.
2.
A
30-day review period usually implies four working weeks –
give or take a few days. If the discrepancy is too high, I
believe this should be taken into account. If not now – then
at least going forward.
3.
I
know of at least one instance where the ballot period was
changed by the WG chair (see attached email). In that case,
it was a technical glitch that would have prevented some
people from having access to the full review period.
Regardless, this precedent would indicate that the WG chair
has the authority to extend the ballot period if conditions
warrant it.
I’m
not making this request lightly. We should respect the
relevant procedures. Nevertheless, I believe the current
ballot period has some exceptional circumstances to it. The
question is how the interest of the TG is best served. I
believe an extra week is beneficial to everyone, without
interfering with the goal to finish the LB by the January
meeting.
Regards,
Sigurd
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HI Graham and Sigurd, while I am
sympathetic to your concerns, I would point out that
the TG and WG voted and determined to have a 30 day
LB.
It would not be permissible to
arbitrarily change the end date contrary to what the WG
and TG voted for. (I would also note it was unanimous in
November).
FWIW,
Jon
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On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 9:14 AM, gsmith
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I agree with Sigurd
Thanks
Graham
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On Behalf Of Sigurd Schelstraete
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 2:27 PM
To: STDS-802-11@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11] IEEE 802.11 Mandatory
Technical Letter Ballot 225 for P802.11ax Draft 1.0
Starts Today
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Adrian,
This letter ballot period completely overlaps with
the December holiday period. This will significantly
reduce the de facto time that people will have
available for review to well below 30 days. Given
that this is the first WG ballot of 11ax, I believe
more time is needed to give everyone a fair chance
at doing a full review. I would like to request to
leave the ballot period open till January 6th. This
still leaves a full week before the start of the
January meeting.
Thanks for your consideration,
Sigurd
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On Behalf Of Adrian Stephens
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 11:17 AM
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Subject: [STDS-802-11] IEEE 802.11 Mandatory
Technical Letter Ballot 225 for P802.11ax Draft 1.0
Starts Today
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IEEE 802.11(TM) Letter Ballot 225
To: IEEE 802.11 Voters,
With this email, the 802.11 Working Group is
officially beginning WG Technical Letter Ballot 225
(LB225), which is a Letter Ballot on the question
"Should P802.11ax D1.0 be forwarded to Sponsor
Ballot?".
This Letter Ballot opens Thu Dec 01, 2016 at 23:59
Eastern Time USA
(11:59PM) and will close 30 days later on Sat Dec
31, 2016 at 23:59 Eastern Time USA (11:59pm). All
necessary documents are available in the
instructions that can be found on the IEEE 802.11
web site at
http://www.ieee802.org/11/LetterBallots/LB225ax/LB225_instructions.html.
Important:
o This is a 30-day Technical letter ballot and
the ballot group
(i.e., those that may vote) for this ballot is all
IEEE 802.11 voter members as of the start of this
letter ballot.
o All current voter members of 802.11 are
required to vote on this
ballot series.
o If you cast a "Do not approve" vote on this
ballot, it must be
accompanied by comments for your vote to be valid.
o You must follow these instructions to vote. Do
not send an email to
vote. Voting by any method other than the web-based
process described here will invalidate your vote.
o Failure to follow these instructions will
result in your vote being
discarded as an invalid vote.
o Not voting on a letter ballot series or sending
an invalid vote can
affect your voting privileges.
o The draft is password protected in accordance
with IEEE 802
Policies and Procedures. To obtain the draft, use
the username and the password supplied to active
members for the 802.11 WG private area.
(The attached file contains a reminder set for 4
days before the close of the ballot. You may find
it helpful to import this into or open this with
your calendar client in order to get an automated
reminder.)
Thank you for participating in Letter Ballot 225.
Adrian Stephens, IEEE 802.11 Working Group Chair
E-mail: Adrian.P.Stephens@xxxxxxxx
Osama Aboul-Magd, IEEE 802.11 TGax Chair
E-mail: Osama.AboulMagd@xxxxxxxxxx
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