RE: [10GBASE-T] September interim meeting
Bruce,
 
Generally, when the 
group can agree on clear objectives, then they can finish the rest of the work. 
Fuzzy objectives often indicate a lack of real concensus.
 
In November, I will 
also be expecting arguments that support the 5 criteria based on the objectives 
- 
especially:
Broad market 
potential - evidence that there will be a broad market the minimum requirements 
of the objectives are met.
 
Technical 
feasibility - is it feasible to meet those minimum 
requirements
 
Economic feasibility 
- when you have met the minimum requirements will cost be suitable to make it a 
viable product in the markets? 
 
In the discussions 
at the plenary, a power consumption issue was raised by some of the speakers. 
If the broad market 
potential is based in part on use in devices such as end nodes (including 
servers in data centers), then an objective for power consumption such that this 
can reside in server card formats would be important. Can it fit within the 
power constraints of a PCI Express board and an Infiniband board (remembering 
that one has to allow some power for the MAC and probably TOE/RDMAP 
engine)?
 
Looking at the 
objectifves in agenda_1_07_03, I don't see any that address power consumption or 
the abilitiy to live on server card formats. In a quick search, I also didn't 
find any material on power consumption in the presentations that have been made 
to the study group. I hope that in September the group will address the issue of 
power.
 
Regards,
Pat
  Brad:
Thanks for the follow up.
I am 
  confident that if we can agree on crisp, clear objectives for 10 Gbps reach 
  and media supported in September that we can get our PAR approved and move 
  into Task Force mode, which is where the real work 
  begins.
Bruce
At 06:35 PM 7/24/2003 -0700, Booth, Bradley 
  wrote:
  Study Group Members, 
    
Just to let others that were not at the meeting know 
    the outcome of the 802.3 Working Group meeting, the Study Group will have to 
    complete its PAR, 5 Criteria and Objectives in November.  This gives 
    the Study Group the task of completing the PAR, 5 Criteria and Objectives in 
    4 months.  This will make our September Interim meeting extremely 
    important.  We will need to complete the effort as much as possible to 
    pre-submit to the 802.3 Working Group prior to the November Plenary.  
    November will permit us the ability to modify the PAR, 5 Criteria and 
    Objectives prior to asking 802.3 to put the PAR on the NesCom agenda.  
    The September Interim meeting will focus on the completion of our PAR, 5 
    Criteria and Objectives.
Thanks, 
Brad 
Chair, 10GBASE-T Study Group 
  
  Bruce Tolley
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