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| George, Thanks. I did think the 64B/66B was at the bit-stream level 
and Sailesh (at the Albuquerque meeting) had also some framing at the 
symbol level over and beyond bit-level framing Is there a need for framing at the bitstream level over and 
beyond what you do in the TCM mapping in your proposal? You are correct in pointing out that group decisions must 
be formalized at a formal meeting through the voting process but  I am 
not suggesting we bypass that process. Reaching agreement earlier (if it 
happens!) will will enable us to get the specific decision through the voting 
process quicker and possible let us address more issues within the time 
constraints of the next meeting. Regards, Sanjay cell (650) 704-7686 office (408) 
653-2235 From: stds-802-3-10gbt@IEEE.ORG [mailto:stds-802-3-10gbt@IEEE.ORG] On Behalf Of George Zimmerman Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 3:03 PM To: STDS-802-3-10GBT@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [10GBT] Framing for 10GBASE-T Sanjay – I have seen 2 other proposals, one by Sailesh, in his original procedure, and the other by myself (to incorporate the control symbols directly into the TCM mapping, and thus avoid the higher baud rates). There may be more brought to the group at the next meeting. 
 Discussion of these items might be 
useful on the reflector, however, we should refrain from trying to make group 
decisions without a formal meeting and voting process. -george -----Original 
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 All, 
 I have seen a proposal from Sailesh Rao to use 10GBASE-R (Clause 49) 64B/66B framing for 10GBASE-T - see http://www.ieee802.org/3/an/public/mar04/rao_1_0304.pdf. 
 I don't recall seeing any other framing proposal. Is everyone in favor of using 64B/66B framing? If not, can you point me to alternative framing proposals? 
 If there aren't any alternative proposals, shall we, as a group, focus on developing this further? 
 Regards, 
 Sanjay Kasturia Editor-in-chief 802.3an 
 cell (650) 704-7686 office (408) 653-2235 fax (408) 844-8187 
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