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 I received an additional point... 
 Demonstration of 
Compatibility (Done) From: Dove, Dan Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 4:07 PM To: STDS-802-3-HSSG@listserv.ieee.org Subject: [HSSG] The List Folks, 
I committed to 
offering up my perspective on what has not been done (and should be done) in order to proceed with a 40G PAR in the 
July timeframe. 
This list is 
subject to review, consideration, and revision if I have either missed 
something or included something that does 
not belong. Some of the determinations made are subjective, and you may 
disagree with my conclusion. This is also worthy of discussion and resolution 
via concensus.  I have run it by people on 
both sides of the discussion and made amendments per their feedback. If you 
have additional feedback, please recognize that I am trying to be fair and 
willing to consider your feedback. 
When it is all said and done, this is *my* list and not 
the HSSG's list. If the HSSG does not agree with me, then I will 
gladly accept the consensus of the group. I based this on the history of 
presentations and motions made in the HSSG and my experience working in 802.3 
over the last 20+ years. There is no defined roadmap, but I think it should 
help us to reach an agreement on how to proceed. 
I should mention that when I say "Not Done" 
relative to a motion, this means "not made and passed by a necessary 
majority".  
Motion to add 40G to HSSG Objectives (Not 
Done) 
Demonstration of 
Broad Market Potential (Done) 
Motion that HSSG has 
demonstrated 40G Broad Market Potential (Not 
Done) 
Demonstration of Technical 
Feasibility (Done) 
Motion that HSSG has 
demonstrated 40G Technical Feasibility (Not Done) 
 ** Demonstration of Compatibility 
(Done)   (Not sure if a motion is 
required on this or not.. might be addressed with acceptance of 
criterion)   Demonstration of Economic 
Feasibility (Not Done) 
-- 40G cost/performance vs 10G cost/performance (Done)  -- 40G cost/performance vs 4x10G LAG 
cost/performance (Incomplete) 
 
   -- I believe a good presentation on this subject 
would show the relative performance of 40G to 4x10G LAG in quantitative 
terms.  The latency 
comparison was a start, but please show how this 
translates to protocol/system performance. I believe we need to see a 
substantial performance benefit given the cost differential is 
minimal. Motion that HSSG has 
demonstrated 40G Economic Feasibility (Not Done) 
Demonstration of 
Distinct Identity (Not Done) 
-- 40G PMDs distinct from 100G? (Done, then undone by OTN proposal)  -- Show why the 2.5X cost/performance difference justifies 
a project. 
 -- 40G functionally 
distinct from 4x10G LAG? (Done) 
 -- How  will the 
HSSG address 40G 10Km and 
40Km links and 
would their addition undermine 
distinct identity? (Not Done) 
 -- HSSG position on OTN rate and WAN PMD 
(Not Done) 
Motion that HSSG has demonstrated 40G Distinct Identity (Not 
Done) 
Motion 
to Adopt 40G PAR proposal (Not 
Done) 
Motion 
to Adopt compatibility 
criterion proposal (Not Done) 
Motion 
to Adopt distinct identity 
criterion proposal (Not Done) 
Motion 
to Adopttechnical feasibility 
criterion proposal (Not Done) 
Motion 
to Adopt economic feasibility 
criterion proposal (Not Done) 
Motion 
to Adopt broad market criterion 
proposal (Not Done) 
I hope at a minimum 
that this clarifies my concern in Geneva that we were not ready to forward a 40G 
PAR.  
If there are any 
remaining items to be completed to forward a 100G PAR, please respond with your 
input as we should try to get both proposals  
ready to forward for the July meeting.  Since the 
March meeting , I see no 
additional work required beyond the formal motions needed to forward the 
PAR. 
Dan Dove ProCurve 
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