AGENDA & MINUTES(Unconfirmed) - IEEE 802 LMSC EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEETING
Monday, March 8th, 1999 - 8:00 a.m.
Hyatt Regency Austin, TX
1. MEETING CALLED TO ORDER
Jim Carlo called the meeting to order at 8:09 am. Members in attendance were:
Jim Carlo - Chair, IEEE 802 LAN / MAN Standards Committee
Paul Nikolich - Vice Chair, IEEE 802 LAN / MAN Standards Committee
Buzz Rigsbee - Executive Secretary, IEEE 802 LAN / MAN Standards Committee
Howard Frazier - Recording Secretary, IEEE 802 LAN / MAN Standards Committee
Bill Lidinsky - Chair, IEEE 802.1 - HILI Working Group
Dave Carlson - Chair, IEEE 802.2 - Logical Link Control Working Group
Geoff Thompson - Chair, IEEE 802.3 - CSMA/CD Working Group
Bob Love - Chair, IEEE 802.5 - Token Ring Working Group
Chip Benson - Chair, IEEE 802.8 - Fiber Optic TAG
Vic Hayes - Chair, IEEE 802.11 - Wireless LANs Working Group
Robert Grow - Treasurer LMSC
Robert Russell - Chair, IEEE 802.14 - Cable TV Protocol Working Group
Khaled Amer - Chair, QoS/FC ECSG
Roger Marks - Chair, BBWA ECSG
The meeting was attended by approximately 10 IEEE 802 Working Group members
2.0 APPROVE OR MODIFY AGENDA
FINAL AGENDA - IEEE 802 LMSC EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEETING
Monday, March 8 1999 - 8:00 a.m.
Hyatt Regency, Austin, TX
1. MEETING CALLED TO ORDER -Carlo 1 08:00 AM
2. APPROVE OR MODIFY AGENDA -Carlo 4 08:01 AM
3. APPROVE / MODIFY MINUTES OF PREVIOUS ME -Carlo 5 08:05 AM
4. TREASURER'S REPORT -Grow 10 08:05 AM
5.0 ACTION ITEMS FROM LAST SEC MEETING -Carlo 10 08:15 AM
5.1 PAR APPROVAL PROCESS -Nikolich 10 08:25 AM
5.2 PA BBWA (LMDS) PAR -Marks 10 08:35 AM
5.3 PA WPAN PAR -Hayes 10 08:45 AM
5.4 PA 802.5? Enhanced Source Routing PAR -Love 5 08:55 AM
5.5 PA 802.1DSupplement - Rapid Reconfiguratio -Lidinsky 5 09:00 AM
5.2 MI QoS/FC ECSG -Amer 10 09:05 AM
5.21 MI 802.10 Registration Authority Request -Alonge 5 09:15 AM
5.22 MI WG reflector membership -Hayes 5 09:20 AM
5.3 DT International Survey Results -Jeffree 15 09:25 AM
BREAK - 15 09:40 AM
5.31 DT ARC Process -Carlo 5 09:55 AM
5.32 DT 802.5t Ballot Resolution Process on Dis -Love 5 10:00 AM
5.33 DT SEC Draft Standard Availability Process -Pribula 10 10:05 AM
5.34 DT SEC Reflector -Frazier 5 10:15 AM
5.35 DT SEC Web site -Frazier 5 10:20 AM
5.36 DT Web Pointers vs attached files -Carlo 5 10:25 AM
5.37 DT Use of www.80211.com by vendor -Hayes 5 10:30 AM
5.38 DT AlphaGraphics -Rigsbee 5 10:35 AM
5.39 DT Y2K issues with 802 Standards -Carlo 5 10:40 AM
5.4 II 802.3ab (1000BASE-T) -Thompson 10 10:45 AM
5.41 II Higher Speed Call for Interest -Thompson 5 10:55 AM
5.42 II MDI Power Call for Interest -Thompson 5 11:00 AM
5.43 II TIA 10/100 Fiber project -Thompson 5 11:05 AM
5.43aII 802.14 update (cable labs) -Nikolich 5 11:10 AM
5.43bII SC6 Action Items -Carlson/T5 11:15 AM
5.44 II Tutorial on Electronic Balloting -Mick 5 11:20 AM
5.45 II LMSC Ballot Pool -Pribula 10 11:25 AM
5.46 II Rules change ballots status -Nikolich 10 11:35 AM
5.47 II Tutorial Schedule, CDROMs and Wednesday -Rigsbee 10 11:45 AM
5.48 II Future meeting venues -Rigsbee 5 11:55 AM
5.49 II IEEE Publication status -Zelenty 5 12:00 PM
5.50 II SCC36 EPRI OSI Protocols -Carlo 5 12:05 PM
ME - Motion, External MI Ė Motion, Internal
DT- Discussion Topic II - InfPA - PAR Approval
Motionto approve agenda as modified 8:15 am
Approved 10/0/0 PASSES at 8:15 am
3. Minutes from previous meeting 8:16 am
Carlo will copy minutes to SEC members.
Paper copies in folders. Email electronic copy to reflector.
Postpone approval until Thursday pm meeting.
4.0 Treasurerís report. 8:20 am. Handout of report.
see file (MonTresRpt.pdf)
Albuquerque meeting was fairly economical.
Need to revise attendance forecast upward.
Deadbeat list growing.
Several DBs from BBWA, Grow will work with Roger to follow up
with theBBWA DBs, who are unfamiliar with the process.
Copying was inexpensive.
There was a supplemental invoice of $1900 extra from July meeting.
Healthy increase of $16,018 in operating reserve.
Russel asks if we can expect to see a decrease in the AV expenses,
Bob Grow says no.
5.0 Action items from last SEC meetingsee file (carlo.pdf)
From March, 1998
5.2 Buzz Rigsbee. Bidding process for plenary meeting organizer 6:00 pm meeting today
5.23 Pat Thaler Set up experts reflector for 802.12. Jim will follow up with Pat
,From July, 1998
5.9 Jim Carlo Send out update meeting services IEEE rules to SEC. There are new rules for
operation of meetings.
From Nov 1998
5.10c DV 802.9b draft on web. Draft is on web
5.11 RR Spnsor ballot for 802.14
5.15b CB Spnsor ballot resolution and recirc for 802.8
Nov 1998 Ongoing Items
802.0 to sponsor ballot. Need new motion on Thursday, pm
802.3ab to sponsor ballot. Went to ballot
802.3ab to RevCom. Is on agenda.
802.11rev to RevCOM is on RevCom agenda.
ECSG on QOS/FC. Initiated 7/98, rechartered 11/98
ECSG on BWA. Initiated 11/98.
802.5 SG on Enhanced Source routing.
802.11 SG on Wireless PAN initiated 7/97, rechartered 11/98
5.1 PAR Approval process Nikolich 8:33 am Handout
Paul Nikolich reviews PAR submittal and approval process.
Geoff Thompson notes that each of the sub-items in the 5 criteria
must be addressed.
Material must be submitted 30 days prior to plenary meeting.
Paul suggests a tutorial at plenary preceeding PAR approval request.
Geoff comments that tutorial a plenary before elongates process.
Bill Lidinsky states opinion that sequence of events is highly compressed.
Geoff, Vic, Bob say that schedule is compressed, but it is the only schedule that works.
5.2 BBWA (LMDS) PAR Roger Marks 8:40 am LCD overhead
History of Groupís activities.
see file (par_bwa.pdf)par_bwa.pdf
BBWA = fixed antenna 30 GHz terrestrial wireless communication.
Task groups: System requirements, co-existence, MAC, PHY
Thompson suggests adding "interoperable" to Scope.
Paul Nikolich asks for an example of current deployment
Roger responds: Windstar, Telligent. All use a single vendorís equipment
Bill Lidinisky needs a set of foils to present to 802.1
Rigsbee asks if there is a bandwidth target.
Roger answers no.
Nikolich asks if intention is to form new WG
Roger answers yes.
5.3 WPAN PAR Vic Hayes 8:54 am
see file (wpan0308.pdf)wpan0308.pdf
Dick Braley, chairman of WPAN SG. Overhead foils.
A tutorial from HomeRF, Bluetooth, WPAN on Tuesday.
Carlo: Follow up meeting on Wednesday. 802 will need to
make a decision on this PAR, depending on relationship of
the three groups.
Hayes: Will WPAN use thinned-down 802.11 MAC? Or
a completely different MAC? Which WG does this belong in?
Ian Gifford: Rev 8 of PAR. Geoff, Bill want copies of Rev 8.
The points of contention in PAR concern requirements for
5.4 802.5y Enhanced source routing PAR. 9:10 am
Bob Love. PAR was distributed 1.5 months ago
Change "Investigate" to "Accommodate" in Purpose.
Carlo asks Bob to present Scope and Purpose in Plenary.
5.5. 802.1 PARs
VLAN Classification by Protocol and Port- a supplement to 802.1Q
Rapid Reconfiguration Ė a supplement to 802.1D
802.1u is a corrigedum to 802.1Q, on NESCOM agenda.
5.2b QoS/FC ECSG Khaled Amer 9:17 am Handouts
see file (QoSFCsecrep.pdf)QoSFCsecrep.pdf
Bob Love points out that the final motion from the Miami Interim
meeting did not pass because it failed to garner 75% approval.
Khaled Amer agrees. Geoff Thompson clarifies by saying
that the SG chair ruled during the meeting that the motion had passed,
but that decision was found to be in error.
Hal Keen states that his vote should have been counted as No.
Rich Seifertís response presented.
Carlo askes how many people on reflector, Amer answers ~ 150.
Frazier Ė responses to straw poll will be appended to minutes.
see file (qosfcmsg.pdf)qosfcmsg.pdf
Carlo: Do you need to have a SG meeting this week?
Amer: No. Would like to request some time with Carlo/SEC to
discuss ongoing relationship with 802. Carlo agrees. Will arrange
and SEC subcommittee meeting.
Nikolich asks if Amer is recommendation termination of study group.
Amer says he will not ask for study group to be renewed.
Carlo says that it would require positive action to renew study group,
will not need a motion to disband.
Bob Love would like to see SEC take a more proactive position to
direct SG to resolve issues. Should meet Thursday PM to work with
membership of other WGs to resolve issues, to attempt to create a
Carlson: Are people who participated in SG attending the plenary this week?
Amer: Some are some are not.
Carlson: Is it reasonable to have a meeting if some of the key participants in the SG
are not here, having not expected to hold a meeting this week?
Rigsbee: Take whole subject out to an SEC subcommittee to generate options.
Hal Keen: Points out that a Thursday afternoon meeting would exclude 802.1.
Carlo: Sets a time for SEC subcommittee meeting Tuesday 2:00 to discuss QoS/FC in
Geoff Thompson asks that Jim Carlo establish for the record whether the motion at
the Miami Interim meeting passed or failed.
Rigsbee: Notes that under the rules for Study Groups, the motion from Miami failed.
Thompson makes motion
SEC motion: To disband the QoS/FC ECSG
Second: Bob Grow seconds.
Bob Love moves to place on agenda for thursday evening
Robert Russel seconds.
Motion to place Thompson/Grow motion on agenda for thursday
Passed 10/0/1 at 9:39 am.
5.21 802.10 Registration Authority Request - Carlo 9:40 am
Removed from agenda. Will be carried forward to a future meeting.
Geoff Thompson, speaking as the chairman of the RAC: "nobody
told us anything, this places a substantial ongoing burden on the RAC.
RevCOM doesnít have a very strong filter in this area. Nobody gets
to add an item to the RAC without approval of the SEC."
5.22 WG Reflector membership Hayes 9:50.
802.11 has two reflectors. Received a request from an individual who
wished to join 802.11 WG reflector, presumably for the sole purpose
of obtaining access to drafts. Vic would like support for a policy of
being able to limit membership on reflectors.
Grow: Should be up to discretion of chair.
Rigsbee: Sees no harm in having two reflectors, one public, one for WG members.
Thompson: Generally acknowledges all requests to be added to reflector.
Russell: Limits access to information on website to active participants only.
Hal Keen: Should be left to individual WGs to decide.
Rigsbee: Should be some minimum threshold rules for membership/access.
Carlson: Our operating rules should say that access to reflectors/web sites is up to
discretion of chair.
Hayes: Agrees with Hal Keenís point. Chair should have the authority.
Marks: Would like to see any IEEE rules on this subject.
Carlo: Will take this issue up in an SEC subcommittee session tomorrow 11:00 am Tuesday.
draft a guideline.
5.3 International Survey Results - Jeffree 10:00 am Handouts
see file (ISOSurvey.pdf)ISOSurvey.pdf
Carlo clarifies point from Robin Taskerís proposal that SC25 would be added to set of liason
Lidinsky: Congratulates Robin Tasker for generating proposal that solves the problems. Agrees with Harry Goldís
Rigsbee: Would adoption of Tasker proposal reduce the amount of JTC1 coordination?
Jeffree: Would reduce it to practically zero.
Rigsbee: Should it reduce the IPF?
Carlo: Donít bet on it.
Thompson: Agrees with Lidinsky. Add to proposal that liason letter should be sent when PAR is approved.
Carlo: Set a time of 3:00 Wednesday afternoon to discuss/formulate motion.
5.31 ARC process Hal Keen 10:28 am
The question is what is an ARC, and how to get one?
An Object Identifier ARC may be useful, for instance for management.
ANSI assigns them for our projects.
Hal to freshen document which explains ARCs and how to get them, add to website.
Thompson: Suggests that ARC assignments be included in 802 Overview and Architecture.
BREAK at 10:30 am.
Meeting reconvenes at 10:40 am.
Carlo reviews SEC meeting attendance. Asks that it be included in minutes. Notes that Paul Eastman is no
longer a voting member of the SEC.
Carlo reviews SEC business meeting schedule.
Geoff asks that Tuesday morning topics be moved.
Lidinisky asks if there are any requests for items for a Tech Plenary Wednesday morning?
Carlo suggests moving SEC business meetings from Tuesday am to Wednesday at 4:00 (AlphaGraphics and Reflector)
Alphagraphics wed at 4:00, reflector Wednesday at 5:00.
5.32 802.5t Ballot resolution Process on DisApproval Vote Love 10:45 am
Question came up with respect to ballot disapproval vote. When does conversion from disapprove to approve get noted?
Suggestion that Disapproval gets changed to Approved based on comment resolution/pending recirc with notification to IEEE.
Thompson: This engendered discussion with Mike Binder, but RevCom was not included in discussion. Mikeís suggestion
would make things more clear cut. Binder doesnít get to make a rule on his own.
Love: Satistified with current status of this issue.
5.33 Draft Standard availability process. Pribula 10:49 am
Needs pointer to draft, needs password, access information.
Thompson: You get sent a Working Group ballot notice from 802.3 which has pointer, login, password.
Pribula: Thatís okay, but not all groups do this.
Carlo: The question is, how to make communication with Denise more specific.
email with subject line saying "updated draft for 802.X available".
Love: We should be aware that IEEE electronic distribution is mainstream.
Grow: Must make full draft available, not just change pages.
Thompson: Need standardized mail headers, but not a slew of specialized mailings.
Carlo: Please send a specific email to Denise.
Zelenty: Direct notice to Denise is helpful.
Thompson/Carlo: All drafts should be available for sale.
Carlo: Direct and explicit notice necessary.
Rigsbee: Multiple announcements, comment availability, change pages, drafts, etc.
Love: Denise needs to define a procedure that works for her, and up to us (all WGs) to follow it.
Carlo: When you have a draft for sale, send an email to Denise with pointer, login, password.
Zelenty: Posted and available for sale within 2 weeks.
Thompson: 2 weeks is too long. 15 day recirculation requires faster turn around so that
draft is not obsolete.
5.34 SEC Reflector Frazier 11:00 am
Frazier suggests cutting over next week.
Frazier will copy archive.
Action Item: Frazier to copy 802exec reflector archive to IEEE web server, activate email@example.com
No objection to moving reflector.
5.35 SEC web site Frazier 11:01 am
Frazier says that SEC private web site has been set up.
Will distribute username/password via mail slots.
5.36 Web pointers vs attached files Carlo 11:02 am
Donít use attachments for simple files.
Maybe set up server for this meeting.
5.37 use of www.80211.com by vendor Hayes 11:03 am
A vendor is using www.80211.com. Can we do anything?
IEEE has no trademark process for things like this.
Carlo will bring this issue up again at Stds Board.
Carlo assigns action item to Frazier to register www.802.org and www.802.com.
Will need motion on Thursday to authorize expense. How about motion today.
Authorize Frazier to spend up to $1000 to obtain rights to www.802.??? or
as appropriate domain names.
SEC Motion 7/0/3 passes at 11:06 am.
Action Item: Frazier to register www.802.com and www.802.org and www.802.net domain names.
5.38 AlphaGraphics Rigsbee 11:07 am
Staff turn over at AlphaGraphics causing problems. Lost drafts, etc. Ongoing problem.
Use of the service is diminishing. Should we continue doing it all?
Rigsbee recommends scrapping AlphaGraphics
Do not renew AlphaGraphics Agreement.
Assist IEEE in providing an alternative distribution service.
Hayes: What service do we have to establish?
Rigsbee/Grow: Distribution of minutes and other documents via www.
Thompson: Add "for documents available only in hardcopy". Friendly ammendment, accepted.
Motion as ammended:
Do not renew AlphaGraphics Agreement.
Assist IEEE in providing an alternative distribution service,
for documents available only in hardcopy.
Frazier: If it is not in softcopy, scan it. WG scans it and posts it on www site.
Thompson: Examples of unsuccessful attempts to get documents from AlphaGraphics.
Vote on Rigsbee/Lidinsky motion: 11/0/0 Passes 11:15 am.
Carlo: subject of 4:00 Wednesday business meeting is what to do with old materials?
5.39 Y2K Issues with 802 Standards Carlo 11:16 am
Carlo: Check standards for Y2K compliance? Do any standards need revision because of Y2K issues.
Lidinsky: Y2K is a computer problem, not a people problem.
Grow: Except for MIB objects.
5.4 802.3ab (1000BASE-T) Thompson 11:23 am
In WG ballot, there was a vote that said technology demonstration was needed. That
comment was carried forward as an unresolved negative.
No demonstration to date. Several people have submitted similar comment in Sponsor ballot.
Have conducted one recirc. Currently 4 outstanding negatives based on technology demonstration.
1000BASE-T currently on RevCom agenda. > 75% approval.
Two balloters have suggested 2 year trial use as an alternative to delay.
Bunch of editorial and some technical comments on recirc.
An "out of left field" new negative Ė withstand ringing voltage.
We have got a little work to do, must decide whether 802.3ab stays on RevCom agenda.
Carlo: TF will make recommendation to 802.3, 802.3WG will make recommendation to SEC on
Thursday and ask for decision.
Nikolich: How many in sponsor ballot pool? A: 60-70
5.41 Higher Speed call for Interest Thompson 11:18 am
Formal call for interest to study 10 Gb Ethernet, what ever that is.
Significant industry discussion. Will hear presentations Tuesday, Wednesday.
No PAR out of this meeting, but there will probably be a Study Group request.
5.42 MDI Power call for interest Thompson 11:20 am
Call for interest. We will be requested to study issue of how to provide power at
RJ-45 for Ethernet. Would enable a broad range of devices, IP telephones, cameras, etc.
Expect study group. Meetings/presentations Wednesday afternoon.
5.43 TIA 10/100 Fiber project Thompson 11:21 am
TIA FO 2.2 has produced a draft that is out for ballot, had comment resolution meeting.
TIA has received a notice that IEEE believes significant portions of document were
drawn from IEEE standards without a copyright notice. Response from TIA has been
to pull draft from web site. Subject is in negotiation.
5.43a 802.14 Update (CableLabs) Nikolich 11:29 am LCD overheads
see file (docsis.pdf)docsis.pdf
Nikolich presents dense chart.
Considering moving CableLabs DOCSIS 1.1 QoS MAC to 802.14.
DOCSIS = Data Over Cable Services Specification
Will be discussed in 802.14 Tuesday morning.
5.43b SC6 Status Carlson/Thompson 11:34 am
Carlson: Next meeting of SC6 in Berlin June 28th to July 2nd. Asks for input at
Thursday PM SEC meeting.
11802-6 Standard Ethernet Type values. To be submitted by Tony Jeffree for NP letter
ballot when the working draft is available. Lidinisky will report back on Thursday.
8802-11 will be forwarded to ITTF by Valerie Zelenty with assist from Vic once
IEEE RevCom approves and editing finished. Normal process.
15802-3 MAC Bridges. Has been forwarded to ITTF according to Lidinsky.
Editing meeting called for 3/11 Thursday to resolve comments on 8802-3. What
Thompson: No requests for a telephone connections. Japan wants to provide input by email,
closing date is 3/10. Small meeting of editing group to formulate position.
5.44 Tutorial on electronic balloting Mick 11:40.
8:00 pm Monday.
5.45 LMSC Ballot Pool Pribula 11:41 am
Denise presents foil on how to join the pool.
Balloting pool form.
Thompson wants it available in PDF.
see file (pool.pdf)pool.pdf
This form has been superseded. Please use the new form.
Copies in in-box, copies at registration desk.
5.46Rules change ballot status Nikolich 11:43 am LCD overheads
Meeting last night.
see file (rulesmtg.pdf)rulesmtg.pdf
Will submit proposal for formal rules revision on Thursday.
Carlo: Do we need an SEC business meeting to work on this?
Hayes: Would like to meet with Nikolich.
Nikolich: Tonight after tutorials, get together in the boardroom. 9:30.
5.47 Tutorial schedule, CDROMs, Wednesday social Rigsbee 11:48 am
see file (buzzcd.pdf)buzzcd.pdf
New CDROMs printed. Got a good deal. Will exchange old CDs for new.
Newly qualified individuals who didnít get a CD can get a new one.
Lidinsky: Lots of people didnít bring their old CDROMs.
Carlo: Legal obligation is exchange. Mail-back okay. Can be sent back to Carlo.
Carlo: have to be voting members of 802 to get CD.
Note: First tutorial is this afternoon, not this evening.
Very good texas BBQ social planned.
5.48 Future meeting venues Rigsbee 11:55 am
cover at the plenary
Rigsbee: Classic Consulting is now Face to Face Events, a US company.
see file (face2face.pdf)face2face.pdf
5.49 IEEE Publication status Zelenty 11:56 am Overhead
see file (valerie.pdf)
5.49a 802.11rev RevCOM comments Hayes 11:59 am
Comment from Frazier. 802.11ís position is that changes were not substantive.
Comment from Thompson. Thompson: you should precisely describe changes.
Bob OíHara: Project editor. Will produce letter to RevCOM describing changes
Motion to adjourn:
Approved by acclimation.
meeting adjourned at 12:00 noon.
Final list of SEC Business meetings
see file (secbiz.pdf)
IEEE 802 Opening Plenary Meeting
Monday, March 8th, 1999 1:00 pm
Hyatt Regency, Austin, TX
see file (carlo.pdf)
Jim Carlo's contact information
Goals for IEEE 802 Ė 1999
Enable IEEE802 to develop consensyus standards that benefits the Word Wide Networking Society
Maintain imperative principles of due process, consensus, openness, balance and rights of appeal
Electronic distribution of standards
Review IEEE Patent Policy
Review of meeting fees
Overview of org chart
web site points of contact
To achieve voting membership in 802, you need to attend two of the last four meetings, one of
which can be a duly constituted interim meeting.
PAR approval Steps (transparency)
New Working Group formation (transparency)
see file (MonTresRpt.pdf)
Attaining voting membership also requires paying the meeting attendance fees.
Attendance in Albuquerque was better than we expected, expenses were low.
Operating reserve increased by $16,018. Currently $45,597.
Our books are open. We will be audited by the IEEE at some point in the near future.
Thank-you to Pat Thaler for leaving the books in excellent shape, and providing lots
90% of attendees count towards International Participation fee.
Deadbeats (people who have not paid fee). If you are on the list, please pay fees.
Guests from IEEE: Denise Pribula, Valerie Zelenty
Scott Bradner from IETF
Recap of SEC Monday morning meeting. ISO proposal, AlphaGraphics motion.
Jim Carlo asks "Who has placed an order with AlphaGraphics in the last 6 months" and one hand goes up.
Recap of SEC Business Meeting schedule. Paul points out that there is a 9:30 pm meeting tonight to
work on rules.
Denise Pribula presents the Balloting Pool sign up form. Copies will be available at registration desk.
Denise will accept completed forms. Note that you must be a member of the SA to be an eligible balloter.
see file (QoSFCplenrep.pdf)
Concerns/recommendations raised in November
Interaction with IETF
Proposed lab work discussed in January Interim meeting
Proposal for Study Group activities
Activities this week
see file (par_bwa.pdf)
Question: What is your website
see file (80210308.pdf)80210308.pdf
see file (8023MonPlen.PDF)8023MonPlen.PDF
Jim Carlo presents plaqes to Geoff Thompson (WG chair), Ian Crayford (TF Chair) and Rich Seifert (TF Editor) for 802.3ac Frame Extensions for Virtual Bridged Networks.
see file (8025monplen.pdf)
see file (80280308.pdf)80280308.pdf
see file (802110308.pdf)802110308.pdf
see file (802140308.pdf)802140308.pdf
see file (buzzcd.pdf)buzzcd.pdf
New CDROMs. Chair offers a mail-back service. You can get a CDROM if you
register for this meeting, and:
You got one in November, brought it with you to this meeting, and exchange it.
You got one in November, and promise to mail it back to Jim Carlo.
You newly acquire voting rights at this meeting.
Meeting adjourned at 2:30 pm
Howard M. Frazier, Jr.