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Re: EF% vs. BCN




Gunes,

I rather agree with Raj on this point.  Policing and shaping at the network 
access points
cannot completely avoid packet clumping inside the network, especially in 
the rings.

I agree that all the points you described "would" be the minimum for 
supporting EF "services".
However, its performance impact on non-EF traffic due to packet clumping 
within the ring
would be of particular interest for the comparison of various proposals.

Cheers,
BJ

At 11:33 AM 08/18/2000 -0700, Gunes Aybay wrote:

>I don't necessarily agree that EF packets will be arriving together when
>EF traffic is given
>the highest priority. In practice, EF will be used for types of traffic that
>require bandwidth,
>latency and jitter guarantee, which are typical of voice and multimedia
>applications. EF can
>also be used to emulate TDM services over IP. By definiton, I would expect a
>traffic class
>that requires commited bandwidth and controlled jitter and latency not to 
>exceed
>the committed
>rate. In any realistic implementation, the ingress devices would actually have
>to do policing and
>shaping with minimal burst allowance to enforce this kind of behavior,
>otherwise, I cannot
>see how EF can be made to work in any kind of network topology. If individual
>EF traffic flows
>are shaped so that they do not exhibit bursty behavior,  it would be 
>reasonable
>to expect that
>aggregatetion of EF  traffic would also not exhibit bursty behavior .
>
>I beleive a typical end-to-end EF deployment over an IP network would look 
>like
>this:
>
>- Assignment to EF class would be subject to network level provisioning. The
>provisioning
>     system would have to know the total and currently utilized EF 
> capacity for
>each congestion
>     point in the network.
>- EF traffic will flows will be relatively  uniform (i.e. not burst) over 
>time.
>- EF traffic flows will be subject to admission control at the original 
>ingress
>point of the network.
>     A policing based admission control scheme is OK for traffic that is not
>inherently bursty, but
>     a shaping function may have to be used for bursty flows. (I don't see why
>one would map
>     bursty flows into EF class, though)
>- EF traffic will be subject to aggregate admission control at the admission
>point to the ring. (It is
>     easier to implement an aggregate shaping function at this point)
>
>In such an implementation, I would expect to see the state of the high 
>priority
>queue used for EF to
>be near-empty in a sustained fashion, i.e., if the total bandwidth 
>allocated for
>EF is less than
>the ring
>
>It is also  interesting to look at the implications of spatial reuse and
>failover conditions on the
>network level provisioning  mechanism that is used to manage EF traffic  in a
>ring topology.
>
>Gunes Aybay
>RiverStone Networks