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Re: [STDS-802-11-TGM] 11-21/790 - 6 GHz comment resolution



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Thanks, Mark.

I have uploaded r5.  Please see inlined to your email as well.

 

Regards,

Youhan

 

From: Mark Rison <m.rison@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2021 1:41 AM
To: Youhan Kim <youhank@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; STDS-802-11-TGM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: 11-21/790 - 6 GHz comment resolution

 

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Thanks, Youhan.

 

Regarding the naming of "Standard power AP" (1) and "Indoor standard power AP" (4),

while it may well be the case that a number of regulatory bodies use this

term to mean "you need some kind of frequency coordination system",

this is by no means global.

 

For instance, my understanding is that currently at least CEPT has no

such category, and so no device operating in corresponding countries

would be a "Standard power AP" as currently described.  Standard-power

APs in CEPT countries would be low-power indoors/very low-power APs.

[YK]  CEPT defines Low Power Indoor (LPI) devices and Very Low Power (VLP) devices.  So, LPI/VLP devices are LPI and VLP, respectively, not standard-power in CEPT.

Note also that LPI and VLP are terms used by FCC.  I.e., countries are adopting FCC terminology when discussing 6 GHz.

For example, see the following countries using the same terminology “standard power”.

https://www.ic.gc.ca/eic/site/smt-gst.nsf/eng/sf11643.html

https://www.acma.gov.au/consultations/2021-04/rlan-use-5-ghz-and-6-ghz-bands-consultation-122021

 

 

I repeat my suggestion that a more neutral term be used.  If there is a

need to tie this with terminology used in certain regdoms then there

could be informative text to that effect (e.g. "NOTE—An AP with external

regulatory system [or whatever neutral term we come up with] is referred to as a

Standard Power AP in FCC, ACMA and Costa Rican regulatory domains.", or an informative

column in the table).  I note though that your discussion section

suggests "SP"s are in fact only allowed in the FCC regulatory domain.

[YK]  Thanks for your opinion, but I disagree with it.  I view clearer alignment between widely used regulatory terms and the IEEE standard terminology to have higher benefit.  I will wait for others to chime in if they have opinions on this.

 

As regards 1 v 3, my initial interpretation would be that

"an enabling signal (as defined by the regulatory rules) from an indoor AP or an indoor standard power AP"

is "control from an external system" and hence that

"operation requires control from an external system" overlaps with

"operation relies on being able to successfully receive an enabling signal (as defined by the regulatory rules) from an indoor AP or an indoor standard power AP".

In other words, as currently described an "Indoor enabled AP"

is also a "Standard power AP".

[YK]  I have clarified that a WLAN STA is not an external system in r5.

 

Thanks,

 

Mark

 

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From: Youhan Kim <youhank@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, 18 May 2021 22:26
To: Mark Rison <m.rison@xxxxxxxxxxx>; STDS-802-11-TGM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: 11-21/790 - 6 GHz comment resolution

 

Thank you, Mark.

I have uploaded r4 incorporating most of your feedback.  Attached version is r4 with some notable response to you included.

 

Regards,

Youhan

 

From: Mark Rison <m.rison@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2021 3:04 AM
To: STDS-802-11-TGM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-11-TGM] 11-21/790 - 6 GHz comment resolution

 

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Thanks for this, Youhan.  I think it is going in the right direction.

I attach some comments.

 

Thanks,

 

Mark

 

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Mark RISON, Standards Architect, WLAN   English/Esperanto/Français

Samsung Cambridge Solution Centre       Tel: +44 1223  434600

Innovation Park, Cambridge CB4 0DS      Fax: +44 1223  434601

ROYAUME UNI                             WWW: http://www.samsung.com/uk

 

From: Youhan Kim <youhank@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, 17 May 2021 18:18
To: STDS-802-11-TGM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [STDS-802-11-TGM] 11-21/790 - 6 GHz comment resolution

 

--- This message came from the IEEE 802.11 Task Group M Technical Reflector ---

Hi.

 

Thank you very much all for the discussion on 11-21/790 regarding resolutions for 6 GHz related comments during the 5/13/2021 TGme meeting.

 

I have uploaded r3 to the IEEE document server, addressing comments received during that meeting.

Please let me know if you have any other feedback.

 

Regards,

Youhan

 


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