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RE: [802.21] 802.11 Requirements Teleconference for 5th Jan - CANCELLED



Indeed, I support that. I believe if the teleconf is an official 802.21
one, it should happen unless there are not participants or the
cancellation is agreed with the WG chair. Otherwise, we should not setup
any audioconferences and do everything in an ad-hoc fashion.
Stefano 

>-----Original Message-----
>From: ext Reijo Salminen [mailto:reijo.salminen@seesta.com] 
>Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 1:46 PM
>To: 'McCann, Stephen'; Faccin Stefano (Nokia-NRC/Dallas)
>Cc: vivek.g.gupta@INTEL.COM; STDS-802-21@listserv.ieee.org
>Subject: RE: [802.21] 802.11 Requirements Teleconference for 
>5th Jan - CANCELLED
>
>Hello, colleagues
>
>It might not harm to have some sort of a formal procedure for 
>the teleconferences in 802.21, including how and when a 
>telecon can cancel itself.
>
>Best Regards, Reijo
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: stds-802-21@ieee.org [mailto:stds-802-21@ieee.org] On 
>Behalf Of McCann, Stephen
>Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 6:59 PM
>To: stefano.faccin@nokia.com
>Cc: vivek.g.gupta@INTEL.COM; STDS-802-21@listserv.ieee.org
>Subject: RE: [802.21] 802.11 Requirements Teleconference for 
>5th Jan - CANCELLED
>
>Stefano,
>	Yes, I do sympathise with your comments and I think 
>within IEEE 802.11u (TGu), we need to spend some time during 
>the Hawaii meeting refining our requirements. Indeed I would 
>say that these need to be in a suitable state for people 
>within the whole of IEEE 802 ;-)
>
>Kind regards
>
>Stephen
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: stds-802-21@ieee.org [mailto:stds-802-21@ieee.org] On 
>Behalf Of 
>> stefano.faccin@nokia.com
>> Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 4:09 PM
>> To: vivek.g.gupta@INTEL.COM; STDS-802-21@listserv.ieee.org
>> Subject: RE: [802.21] 802.11 Requirements Teleconference for 
>5th Jan - 
>> CANCELLED
>> 
>> 
>> Vivek,
>> I wished we had not cancelled this call, or that we had discussed 
>> whether to cancel it or not. I do not agree there is no need for 
>> discussion. After reviewing the requirements once again, I believe 
>> there are mistakes and some requirements may create a lot of 
>confusion 
>> for TGu since they are not relevant at all for them. We need to 
>> consider that the requirements are for the whole TGu, not 
>just for one 
>> subgroup of TGu members that are preparing a joint proposal.
>> Even if there is understanding in that group, it does not 
>mean things 
>> work well for the whole TGu. it is our responsibility to make the 
>> requirements clear and meaningful.
>>  
>> Stefano
>> 
>> 
>> ________________________________
>> 
>> 	From: ext Gupta, Vivek G [mailto:vivek.g.gupta@INTEL.COM] 
>> 	Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 5:37 AM
>> 	To: STDS-802-21@listserv.ieee.org
>> 	Subject: Re: [802.21] 802.11 Requirements 
>Teleconference for 5th Jan 
>> - CANCELLED
>> 	
>> 	
>> 
>> 	 
>> 
>> 	 
>> 
>> 	The 802.11 Requirement telecon scheduled for later today is 
>> CANCELLED.
>> 
>> 	These requirements have been discussed several times in 
>the past and 
>> there have not been any further updates since last discussion.
>> 
>> 	Further since TGu has already issued a call for 
>proposals and several 
>> folks are already involved in developing appropriate proposals to 
>> address these requirements.
>> 
>> 	As such at this time there is no need for this telecon.
>> 
>> 	 
>> 
>> 	Best Regards
>> 
>> 	-Vivek
>> 
>> 	 
>> 
>> 	
>> ________________________________
>> 
>> 
>> 	From: stds-802-21@ieee.org
>> [mailto:stds-802-21@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Gupta, Vivek G
>> 	Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 2:01 PM
>> 	To: STDS-802-21@listserv.ieee.org
>> 	Subject: 802.11 Requirements Teleconference
>> 
>> 	 
>> 
>> 	 
>> 
>> 	Thursday January 5th, 6AM PST
>> 
>> 	Phone: 916-356-2663/503 264 2663, Bridge: 2, Passcode: 2200525
>> 
>> 	 
>> 
>> 	Shall send out agenda and other documents later on.
>> 
>> 	Best Regards
>> 
>> 	-Vivek
>> 
>> 	 
>> 
>> 	 
>> 
>> 	
>> ________________________________
>> 
>> 
>> 	From: stds-802-21@ieee.org
>> [mailto:stds-802-21@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Ajay Rajkumar
>> 	Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 5:22 AM
>> 	To: STDS-802-21@listserv.ieee.org
>> 	Subject: [802.21] Ad hoc telecons for the next two months
>> 
>> 	 
>> 
>> 	*
>> 
>> 	Hi everyone,
>> 	
>> 	The external meeting documents server has been updated 
>and synced. At 
>> the end of the just concluded Vancouver session the working group 
>> approved a set of telecon for the next two months.
>> 	
>> 	Here is the schedule of these telecons again. Please 
>note that all 
>> times are from 9-11 am EST, which was acceptable to all and seems to 
>> be most suitable time for all time zones concerned.
>> 	
>> 	
>> 
>> 	*
>> 
>> 	*IS Higher Layer Transport Requirements
>> 
>> 	   December 8, 2005
>> 
>> 	-    January 10, 2006 
>> 
>> 	
>> 	*ES/CS Higher Layer Transport Discussion
>> 
>> 	-    November 29, 2005 
>> 
>> 	-    December 13, 2005 
>> 
>> 	-    January 12, 2006 
>> 
>> 	
>> 	*802.11 Requirements
>> 
>> 	-    January 5, 2006 
>> 
>> 	*
>> 	802.16 Requirements
>> 
>> 	   -December 15, 2005
>> 
>> 	
>> 	The telecon bridge number and codes would be announced 
>closer to the 
>> respective telecon dates.
>> 	
>> 	Best Regards,
>> 	-ajay
>> 	
>> 	Ajay Rajkumar
>> 	Chair, IEEE 802.21 WG
>> 	
>> 	
>> 	
>> 
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