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RE: [802.21] Operator ID assignment in 802.16



Philip, what you say may be true, but it is only indirectly, and IMO
quite from a remote point of view. I'd be curious to hear from a 3GPP
operator that is indeed willing to let IEEE administer its operator ID.
Till then, I would definitely not be that optimistic based on my
experience in 3GPP. 

Stefano

-----Original Message-----
From: Phillip Barber [mailto:pbarber@BROADBANDMOBILETECH.COM] 
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 6:44 PM
To: STDS-802-21@listserv.ieee.org
Subject: Re: [802.21] Operator ID assignment in 802.16

Indirectly, 3GPP and 3GPP2 network operators already submit themselves
to 
the 'authority' of the IEEE-RAC.

IEEE-RAC is the authority that distributes and administers
Organizationally 
Unique Identifiers (OUIs) which are the basis for MAC Addresses that all

Ethernet (and many other devices) use. If you have a Wi-Fi card, it has
an 
IEEE-RAC assigned OUI as part of the MAC Address. How do 3GPP and 3GPP2 
operators feel about MAC Addresses and Wi-Fi?

But IEEE-RAC is certainly a non-traditional source for Network
Identifier 
Codes as opposed to Device Identifier Codes, there can be little doubt
of 
that. Nevertheless, if we are willing to trust the IEEE-RAC to
administer 
OUIs, then confidence for administration of Operator IDs is not too much
of 
a stretch. And the IEEE-RAC is well equipped and has a long history of
such 
number space administration. Anyway, it was not like 802.16 was given a
wide 
selection of choices on this matter.

Thanks,
Phillip Barber
Chief Scientist
Broadband Wireless Solutions
Huawei Technologies Co., LTD.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Qiaobing Xie" <Qiaobing.Xie@motorola.com>
To: "Peretz Feder" <pfeder@LUCENT.COM>
Cc: <STDS-802-21@listserv.ieee.org>
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: [802.21] Operator ID assignment in 802.16


> Will this be acceptable for non-IEEE operators (3GPP, 3GPP2)? Will
they 
> feel comfortable to put themselves under the authority of the IEEE 
> Registration Authority?
>
> regards,
> -Qiaobing
>
> Peretz Feder wrote:
>
>> Dave and MIHers:
>>
>> Per my comment this morning regarding NAP/NSP, please see the
attached.
>>
>> In 802.16, the Operator ID will be assigned as an IEEE 802.16
Operator
>> ID by the IEEE Registration Authority.  The IEEE Registration
Authority
>> will be the sole authorized number space administrator for this
function.
>>
>> The IEEE Registration Authority is a committee of the IEEE Standards
>> Association Board of Governors. General information as well as
details
>> on the allocation of 802.16 Operator IDs can be obtained at 
>> http://standards.ieee.org/regauth.
>>
>>
>> Peretz Feder
>>