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RE: 802.21c: Single Radio Handover Task Group



Hello, Peretz.  I hope your new year is happy and prosperous.

 

I apologize for being cryptic, especially since I wasn’t making a deep or a constructive point. To be clear now, my assumption is that even a single radio mobile node will need to choose between multiple handoff candidates based on some “link quality”. I don’t know what the SG will determine a good measure of link quality is, or even how many dimensions it will have, but I would expect there to be one.

 

I make no claim about the handoff utility of 802.11k. All I meant to point out was that the stated design philosophy of 802.11k was to use information that “was already there” but not uniformly accessible. As work in the SG progresses, they may need link information that is not in the current LINK SAP. By that philosophy, a mechanism that satisfied those needs but required, say, new timers in an existing protocol would be a “bad idea”, no matter how valuable it might be to an application. Adding new accessors would presumably be OK.

 

--Dennis

 

From: Feder, Peretz (Peretz) [mailto:pfeder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 2:46 PM
To: Dennis Edwards; STDS-802-21@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: 802.21c: Single Radio Handover Task Group

 

Hello Dennis:

 

Sorry but I am afraid I lost w.r.t your line of thinking.

 

Are you saying 802.11k is a good model for a single-radio HO?

 

What are the single radio aspects of 802.11k?

 

Appreciate some more background pls,

 

Happy new year, Peretz Feder

 


From: Dennis Edwards [mailto:dedwards@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 3:51 PM
To: STDS-802-21@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [802.21] 802.21c: Single Radio Handover Task Group

 

Junghoon,

 

Congratulations on your chair appointment.  I wish you the best of luck in your new endeavor.

 

Just a thought, and I apologize if I am out of touch, but should link quality information be needed, perhaps the 802.11k model would prove useful. Recognizing the enduring achievements of Mr. Paine, it may be more palatable to the EC than other approaches have been.  

 

Best regards,

 

--Dennis

 

From: Gupta, Vivek G [mailto:vivek.g.gupta@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 10:28 AM
To: STDS-802-21@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [802.21] 802.21c: Single Radio Handover Task Group

 

Dear All,

 

The IEE-SA has approved the 802.21c PAR.

I am pleased to appoint Junghoon Jee (ETRI) as the Chair of this new task group.

Anthony Chan (Huawei) has kindly agreed to assist Junghoon as Vice Chair for this group.

This group will start its activities from Jan-2010 (San Diego) meeting.

 

This is also a call for contribution for 802.21c for the Jan meeting.

If you are interested in presenting:

- Use cases

- Requirements

- Architectural and Design considerations

- Initial Proposals or anything else related to Single Radio Handovers

 

Please notify Junghoon Jee.

 

The intent for Jan meeting is to establish requirements and guidelines for a subsequent formal Call for Proposals.

 

Best Regards

-Vivek