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Re: [802.3_4PPOE] yseboodt_03_0317: PD Classification text



Hi Chad and all,

 

You said:

I had a similar comment and I agree with what you did here but I think you deleted a relevant piece of information: “The requested Class of the PD is the Class a PD advertises during Physical Layer classification when connected to a Type 4, Class 8 PSE;”.  The ‘connected to a Type 4, Class 8 PSE’ phrase struck me as odd at first but then it became clear that this is a way of saying request the max power on the physical layer. I think it is important to leave in. So I would say add the phrase “when connected to a Type 4, Class 8 PSE” back to your sentence.”

 

This is still od to me.

1.       If Type 4 is a special case we need to say it explicitly. I would never guess that this was the intent.

2.       Isn’t it that the required class is the maximum power the PD will ever draw regardless of the Type? I believe that this is the case so the changes made looks OK to me.

 

Yair

 

From: Chad Jones (cmjones) [mailto:cmjones@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2017 12:47 AM
To: STDS-802-3-4PPOE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [802.3_4PPOE] yseboodt_03_0317: PD Classification text

 

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Mutual ID is the term we invented for AT and I think it is appropriate to keep it in BT.

Additionally, classification is used to establish mutual identification between the PSE and the PD to discover each others’ Type.

This text:

The requested Class of the PD is the Class the PD advertises during Physical Layer classification, and represents the maximum power, as defined in Table 145–24 and Table 145–25, that a PD shall draw across all input voltages.

 

I had a similar comment and I agree with what you did here but I think you deleted a relevant piece of information: “The requested Class of the PD is the Class a PD advertises during Physical Layer classification when connected to a Type 4, Class 8 PSE;”.  The ‘connected to a Type 4, Class 8 PSE’ phrase struck me as odd at first but then it became clear that this is a way of saying request the max power on the physical layer. I think it is important to leave in. So I would say add the phrase “when connected to a Type 4, Class 8 PSE” back to your sentence.

 

 

 

Chad Jones

Tech Lead, Cisco Systems

Chair, IEEE P802.3bt 4PPoE Task Force

 

From: "Yseboodt, Lennart" <lennart.yseboodt@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To: "Yseboodt, Lennart" <lennart.yseboodt@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wednesday, March 1, 2017 at 1:35 PM
To: 4PPOE Reflector <STDS-802-3-4PPOE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [802.3_4PPOE] yseboodt_03_0317: PD Classification text

 

Hello,

 

We saw significant changes to the PD classification text due to the Clause split, on top of a nice cleanup action by Heath adopted in January.

Some rectification and further cleanup attached.

 

Comments welcomed.

 

Kind regards,

 

Lennart