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RE: Proposal to move the SEC meeting to Friday

The start-of-plenary SEC meeting should not be eliminated.  There is no
substitute for a face-to-face meeting so that the SEC can all be well
prepared and coordinated for the upcoming plenary activities and to
optimally schedule our SEC meetings during the plenary.  I am willing to
meet on Sunday evening, altough I would prefer to meet from 8pm to 10pm.
We can still have the informal SEC rules meeting 7pm-8pm.


At 01:31 PM 1/21/01 -0600, Jim Carlo wrote:
>1) I have no problem with moving the Thursday SEC meeting until Friday, say
>8am - noon. If we can discuss at our March Monday SEC meeting, then we can
>inform people of this intent at the Monday plenary.
>2) At this time, we usually hold an informal SEC rules meeting on Sunday
>3) I am somewhat negative on deleting the Monday morning SEC meeting. This
>is the first time that the SEC can get together and there are usually a few
>hot topics (where email will not work) and a few topics dealing with our
>meetings. One option, would be to hold the Monday SEC meeting on Sunday
>evening from 9pm - 11pm. But this might exhaust the SEC before the busy
>Jim Carlo( Cellular:1-214-693-1776 Voice&Fax:1-214-853-5274
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: []On
>Behalf Of Tony Jeffree
>Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2001 2:30 AM
>To: Howard Frazier
>Subject: Re: Proposal to move the SEC meeting to Friday
>Howard -
>You have my support.
>Might be worth considering removing the opening Exec meeting from Monday
>morning too - move the opening plenary to 9:00 and allow the WGs to start
>after the morning coffee break.  Is there any good reason why Monday's Exec
>business couldn't be conducted ahead of time via Email?
>At 15:34 19/01/01 -0800, Howard Frazier wrote:
>>Dear members of the SEC,
>>I would like to enlist your support for moving the closing SEC meeting
>>from Thursday evening to Friday morning.  This change would become
>>effective at the July, 2001 meeting of 802.
>>The rationale for the change is:
>>1) Working Groups need more time to conduct their business.
>>Moving the SEC meeting from Thursday evening to Friday morning would
>>allow WGs to meet until late in the day on Thursday if necessary.
>>While some Working Groups do this under the current schedule, others
>>find it difficult to conclude their business on Thursday afternoon and
>>then get ready for an SEC meeting on Thursday night.
>>2) SEC members would have more time to prepare for the meeting.
>>During my tenure as Recording Secretary, I have noticed that virtually
>>all of you could use more time to prepare for the SEC meeting, and I
>>think that this additional time for preparation would make the SEC meetings
>>much more effective, and much more efficient.
>>3) With the elimination of the Friday 802 closing plenary meeting, nothing
>>stands in our way except your consent, and the clean up work of changing
>>I understand that a rules change will be required in order to make this
>>change permanent.  However, I believe that with the concurrence
>>of the SEC, we can announce the change in March, put the change into
>>effect in July, and ratify the rules change in due course, just as
>>we did with the elimination of the closing plenary.  Specific rules change
>>text to deal with, and Procedure 5 Item 7 will be proposed
>>at the March meeting.
>>I ask your support for this change, in the hopes of making the IEEE 802
>>a more effective standards development committee.
>>Howard Frazier