Re: [802SEC] +++ SEC EMAIL BLLOT +++ MOTION: Authorize the Link Security Exec SG to become an 802.1 SG
Attached is a message from Ken Alonge, the Chairman of the hibernating
802.10 Security WG, on the ECSG Motion.
(Bob O'Hara, please add Ken to the SEC reflector list.)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Alonge" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
To: "Geoff Thompson" <email@example.com>; "Paul Nikolich"
Cc: "Russ Housley" <firstname.lastname@example.org>; "Dolors Sala (E-mail)"
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 4:46 PM
Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++ SEC EMAIL BLLOT +++ MOTION: Authorize the Link
Security Exec SG to become an 802.1 SG
> Paul and Geoff-
> I couldn't agree with Geoff's position more. I think it is a grave
> to vote (at this point) to put the study group into 802.1.
> It seems to me (and was voiced to you by Russ Housley) that the deck was
> stacked by the fact that the LinkSec study group meeting was held in
> conjunction with an 802.1 interim meeting. Some of the other working
> that have an interest in the SG had conflicting meetings during or near
> time of the SG meeting and therefore could not attend. It's obvious that
> recommendation coming out of that meeting would be to move the SG into .1
> since most of the attendees were from .1, and it seems that members of .1
> are the ones driving this e-mail ballot.
> The other problem that I have with this is that it appears that this SG,
> which is focused on critical 802 security issues, will wind up in a
> MAC-oriented working group rather than in a non-biased security-oriented
> working group, such as .10. We clearly see, and the industry is still
> feeling, the result of the .11 security fiasco. Can 802 afford another
> Russ is pursuing funding from Government sponsors for both himself and me
> that we can unhibernate .10, if need be, in order to deal with the 802
> security issues. My guess is that we will be successful in getting the
> required funding if 802 decides that .10 is where these issues should be
> handled. It is also a possibility that the other two key .10 members
> McAllister and Joe Maley) could get funding to participate, if .10 comes
> of hibernation.
> There is a possibility that I might be able to attend the March plenary to
> discuss this further in person, but that depends on contractual issues
> are currently in the works and which probably won't get resolved until
> this week or early next week.
> Ken Alonge
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Geoff Thompson" <email@example.com>
> To: "Paul Nikolich" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
> Cc: "IEEE802" <email@example.com>; "Dolors Sala (E-mail)"
> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 11:36 AM
> Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++ SEC EMAIL BLLOT +++ MOTION: Authorize the Link
> Security Exec SG to become an 802.1 SG
> > Colleagues-
> > I vote DISAPPROVE
> > Further, were this vote to come up on the agenda for Monday morning, I
> > would move to defer the decision until Friday.
> > By conducting this as an e-mail ballot we are taking a vote of the SEC.
> > conducting this vote at the closing plenary as I consider proper, we
> > (hopefully) have the input of the body of the Working Groups.
> > It is my opinion that this sort of 802 structural decision will have far
> > reaching consequences for each/all of the Working Groups and should not
> > taken lightly.
> > Respectfully,
> > Geoff
> > At 02:04 PM 2/12/2003 -0500, Paul Nikolich wrote:
> > >Dear SEC,
> > >
> > >This is a 10 day SEC email ballot to make a determination on the below
> > >motion to authorize the Link Security Executive Study Group to become
> > >802.1 Study Group. Moved by Tony Jeffree, seconded by Bob Grow.
> > >
> > >The email ballot opens on Wednesday February 11 2PM EST and closes
> > >February 21 2PM EST.
> > >
> > >Please direct your responses to the SEC reflector.
> > >
> > >Regards,
> > >
> > >--Paul Nikolich
> > >Chairman, IEEE 802 LMSC
> > >
> > >MOTION: "The SEC resolves that the Link Security Study Group will
> > >study group of the 802.1 HiLi working group, effective from the start
> > >the March 802 Plenary meeting."
> > >
> > >MOVER: Tony Jeffree
> > >SECOND: Bob Grow