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Re: [802SEC] Request for Assistance from IEEE 802 - Emergency Services Location Identification



All,

I have passed Paul's message and the original inquiry along to the 802.22
reflector.

My reasoning is that in the fixed service nature of .22 the location of the
CPE (subscriber terminal) will be known.
Additionally, since VOIP is one of the target services that's envisioned to
be offered/available over the .22 "pipe," it may eventually be required to
meet E-911 location determination regulatory requirements (this might also
be extended to other systems that carry VOIP ...)

It is just a subject for consideration by the group - there is no
predetermined outcome/decision.

Just thought I'd share these thoughts with the rest of you.

Carl
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tony Jeffree [mailto:tony@JEFFREE.CO.UK] 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 5:55 PM
> To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
> Subject: Re: [802SEC] Request for Assistance from IEEE 802 - 
> Emergency Services Location Identification
> 
> Pat -
> 
> I would agree. In particular, if location identification is 
> involved, you 
> are definitely looking at a higher layer function (I can't 
> think of any 
> good 802 protocol reason to stick GPS in a NIC for example).
> 
> Regards,
> Tony
> 
> At 22:00 28/02/2006, Pat Thaler wrote:
> >I think your instincts here were good. This doesn't sound 
> like a layer 2
> >function. It shouldn't operate differently depending on the type of
> >network. The place where the call placing protocols are 
> specified (e.g.
> >IETF) seems more appropriate for this kind of function.
> >
> >Regards,
> >Pat
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Paul Nikolich [mailto:paul.nikolich@ATT.NET]
> >Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 1:20 PM
> >To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
> >Subject: [802SEC] Request for Assistance from IEEE 802 - Emergency
> >Services Location Identification
> >
> >Dear EC members,
> >
> >A few weeks ago I received a request from Doug Rollender 
> asking if there
> >was any interest in supporting emergency service location 
> identification
> >capability in 802 standards.  I told him I didn't think so, 
> but I would
> >share his request with the EC.  It is copied below.  If you 
> think there
> >may be synergy with you group, please respond directly to Doug.
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >--Paul
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Rollender, Douglas Harold (Douglas)
> >To: p.nikolich@ieee.org
> >Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 8:12 PM
> >Subject: Request for Assistance from IEEE 802 - Emergency Services
> >
> >
> >Paul Nikolich, Chairman, IEEE 802 Executive Committee,
> >
> >Paul,
> >
> >It was good talking with you last week about how IEEE 802 could help
> >support future emergency services.  This message is the request we
> >discussed for IEEE 802 working groups to consider including in their
> >standards whatever is needed for the generation and delivery 
> of location
> >identification and callback capability for individuals trying to gain
> >access to emergency services through either voice or 
> non-voice devices.
> >
> >
> >This request applies for any technology that provides wired 
> or wireless
> >access to the Public Switched Telephone Network, wireless carrier
> >networks, or the public Internet.  From a universal perspective, the
> >overarching concern is for a consistent approach by standards
> >development organizations to address social policy 
> expectations, such as
> >full 9-1-1 capability, in relation to emerging access technologies.
> >
> >Location identification and callback capability represent baseline
> >requirements for emergency service.  Organizations such as 
> the National
> >Emergency Number Association (NENA), the ATIS Emergency Service
> >Interconnection Forum (ESIF) and the FCC's Network Reliability and
> >Interoperability Council (NRIC) have created considerable 
> documentation
> >identifying requirements and technical needs that must be 
> addressed to
> >support E911 service through emerging access technologies.  Please
> >consider these requirements and the role IEEE 802 standards 
> would play
> >with other interoperable network standards to provide end 
> users access
> >to emergency service in a manner consistent with these requirements.
> >
> >I recognize this request may represent a considerable challenge.  As
> >chairman of ESIF Subcommittee B, I'm confident that ESIF 
> membership is
> >prepared to assist you as well as other standards organizations and
> >public safety organizations to facilitate dialogue as needed 
> to resolve
> >any concerns you may have for those aspects of emergency service
> >requirements that you feel are within your scope.
> >
> >Should you have questions, please call me a 973-386-4560.  I look
> >forward to receiving your response to this request for all 
> relevant IEEE
> >802 working groups.
> >
> >Doug
> >
> >
> >
> >Douglas Rollender
> >Lucent Technologies
> >Wireless Standards Development and Industry Relations
> >TN=973 386-4560, FAX=973 386-4555, Mobile=908-963-7965
> >
> >
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