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[802SEC] RE: Hotel room rates

Geoff,  The room rate is $199.  single or double.  We have a $229 rate for upgraded tower view rooms (high floors with larger floor-plans and business plan amenities).  That is also the rate if you put a third adult in the same room.  We are getting all of their meeting space for free at that rate.  ComicsCon has no meeting space.  
The $189.00  ComicsCon rate is just for soak-up rooms (to fill up any lower floor rooms that we have left unbooked).  Having a slightly higher rate for us is good because the hotel will not be tempted to sell our rooms to the ComicsCon folks.  And since we are in there first we can hold onto all that we have booked.  Where we have trouble is when the other group is at a substantially higher rate so the incentive runs the other way.  
The $199 group rate is actually a phenomenal deal given that we also have the lion's share of all of their great meeting space.  Normal group rates for groups wanting meeting space run from $239 to $269 for this period.  So rest assured that the rate we have is indeed an excellent rate for one of the most desirable hotels on the planet.  You'll see when you get there: it's actually much better than the Denver  property (which we liked so much), it's going to have great weather while we are there, and it is a perfect easy-access location.  Try it, you'll like it !!!     :-)   

Thanx,  Buzz
Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
Boeing IT - SSG
PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
Seattle, WA  98124-2207
(425) 865-2443    Fx: (425) 865-6721
Cell: (425) 417-1022

	-----Original Message-----
	From: Geoff Thompson [] 
	Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 10:26 AM
	To: Rigsbee, Everett O
	Subject: Hotel room rates
	The room rate that we have for the July meeting is 
	        $199 single
	        $229 double

		Manchester Grand Hyatt San Diego 
		One Market Place 
		San Diego, CA USA 92101
		Reservation Phone: (619) 232-1234
		The July 2006 IEEE 802 LMSC Plenary Session will be held during the week of July 16-21, 2006.
		IEEE 802 Group Rate: $199.00 US single or double occupancy per night plus taxes. Each additional adult person is $30.00 US.
		Dates the group rate is available: July 9-28, 2006 (based on hotel room availability). 

	The hotel has 1625 rooms
	Then I discovered that the Comics Convention problem is not just competition for rooms in the area but that:
	        #1 The Manchester Grand Hyatt San Diego is an official hotel of the convention.
	        #2 The room rate offered to the funny book folks is less ($189 single or double) than the rate offered to us.
	(See attachment, found at: <> shtml <>  )
	Admittedly, there is not 100% overlap on when it happens.
	        ComicsCon is:   In 7/19         Out 7/23
	        IEEE 802 is:    In 7/16         Out 7/21
	I thought we were supposed to be better negotiators than this, especially when we were (a) offering to fill the hotel and (b) had a substantial catering budget bundled in. How much of the hotel has Hyatt given over to ComicsCon room block?
	Geoff Thompson 

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