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Re: [802SEC] FW: [802SEC] Proposed 802 Chair's Guideline Pertaining to Patents Etc.

I'm not sure I'm interpreting what you are saying in the attached
document correctly, but it doesn't seem to give any relief in the amount
of time that will be taken presenting the patent policy slides. If any
thing, it expands what is required depending on how "meeting" is
interpreted. When my task group meets for two days during a plenary, it
looks like it requires the full slide presentation at the beginning of
the first day, then if each day is considered a "meeting", the URL slide
needs to be shown at the beginning of each day. Or does the lunch break
make the afternoon a new meeting?

What happened to what we discussed about meetings with registration? It
would seem just as effective, possibly more effective, to require that
participants acknowledge that they have read the patent policy slide set
material in order to complete registration. When this has been done, it
should be enough at the meeting to show a condensed one page slide with
URLs and the chair's statement described for online or teleconference
meetings: "The chair shall also make a statement if any individual
believes that patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) might be or
may become essential patent claims, that fact should be made known. The
fact that this statements were made, and any responses that were given,
specifically the patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) and/or the
holder of the patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) that were
identified (if any) and by whom, shall be duly recorded in the minutes."

The IETF has acknowledging their patent policy as part of the
registration process.

-----Original Message-----
From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List *****
[] On Behalf Of Carl R. Stevenson
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 4:01 PM
Subject: [802SEC] FW: [802SEC] Proposed 802 Chair's Guideline Pertaining
to Patents Etc.

802.22 participants and EC members,

I have received a number of comments/complaints about the amount of
meeting time that the "expanded" Patent Policy and Anti-trust slides
require and the repetitive nature of the presentation thereof (802
opening plenary/Joint Wireless WG opening plenary, WG opening plenary,
TG meetings, etc.).

Thanks to the 802.22 ad hoc leaders who have been including a link to
the slideset in their weekly conference call agendas and reminding
participants in each call that our activities are governed by those

As a member of the IEEE-SA Board of Governors ("BoG") I had already
requested some time for discussion on the agenda of the upcoming BoG
meeting next week, with the goal of seeking some guidance on how many
times the slideset needs to be presented, when I received the attached
message from the Chair of 802.11 to the 802 Executive Committee.

I will take the contents of the attached document into account in the
discussions at the BoG next week, but would also welcome any additional
comments/suggestions from members of 802.22 and/or the 802 EC (on behalf
of your WG members) that you may have regarding the proposals in the
attached document.


-----Original Message-----
From: []
On Behalf Of Stuart J. Kerry
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 4:56 PM
Subject: [802SEC] Proposed 802 Chair's Guideline Pertaining to Patents

802 EC Colleagues.

Paul Nikolich has asked me to forward the attached document to you all
in advance, regarding the proposed addition to his 802 Chair's
Guidelines that would pertain to the IEEE patent policy etc, within 802.

At Paul's request I have been working with David Law and the following
folks at the IEEE namely, Dave Ringle, Karen Kenney, Michael Lindsay,
and Claire Topp. We have now reached consensus within this group and
with this Paul will present for information and discussion at the
opening EC meeting during our San Francisco meeting.

May I respectfully suggest that you review the document in advance and
bring your comments and suggestions with you and make them when Paul

On behalf of Paul, thank you for your consideration.


/ Stuart


Stuart J. Kerry
Chair, IEEE 802.11 WLANs WG 

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