Re: [802SEC] Plenary organization
I like Geoff's suggestion and the rationale therefore (despite sharing his
metabolic propensity for not being a "morning person.")
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> An alternate suggestion to David's as put forth below.
> I would suggest that We keep the Monday EC as it is for two reasons:
> - Many of our North American attendees travel on Monday morning.
> David's proposal (and that of others) would force (or at least
> heavily nudge) a much larger chunk of our rank and file to
> travel on the weekend. While this may seem like no big deal to
> those of use (a) who are officers and/or (b) come from overseas,
> it is significant to many new participants who have not yet
> committed themselves to working with us and, in particular,
> those who have young families. These are participants who
> will vote with their feet.
> - My experience over the last 25 years has shown that the quality
> of EC meetings is significantly handicapped by the late evening
> format. That time slot has, in my strong opinion, demonstrated
> a lower level of EC performance, diligence and collegiality.
> Thus I think it would be a bad idea for the EC to go to an
> evening time slot. (I say this in spite of my personal metabolism
> which gives me an early morning handicap.)
> I would offer an alternate to get more meeting time. That
> would be to eliminate the Monday tutorials and have initial
> TF meetings on Monday evening. Tuesday evening would be
> tutorials and the Wednesday Social would remain.
> I believe that this set-up would provide the following advantages:
> - Lowest burn-out factor for the largest number of people
> - The evening TF day at the front of the week when folks
> are relatively fresh.
> - Lowest disturbance to room allocations/catering and thus
> to ou hotel contracts.
> - At least 3 hours of additional TF time.
> I look forward to our discussions on this topic in Dallas.
> Best regards,
> Geoff Thompson
> At 10:02 AM 10/20/2008 , David Law wrote:
> >Hi Steve,
> >What is proposed here would give the WGs approximately 1.5
> hours extra >daytime meeting time Monday - allowing the WG
> to start at 10:30AM - and >two extra evenings - eliminate
> Tuesday tutorial and the Wednesday social - >which is a start.
> >I however still think we should consider  moving the
> Opening EC to >Sunday evening to allow a full day of WG
> meetings Monday and/or  moving >the closing EC to allow a
> half day of WG meetings Friday morning. Allowing >WGs to
> meet Friday morning would also make Thursday evening
> available for >WG meetings - and I would suggest that might
> be a better approach rather >than eliminating the Tuesday
> tutorial or the social.
> >I do realize that what I suggest places a greater burden on
> all-ready >overworked EC members, but I believe we should do
> everything possible to >allow the WGs the maximum time to do work.
> >Best regards,
> > David
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> <STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org> >wrote on 18/10/2008 13:56:42:
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> > STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Shellhammer, Steve >
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> Plenary organization > > All, >
> > I am NOT in favor of the following,
> > 1. Moving Monday EC meeting to Sunday
> > 2. Moving Friday meeting to Thursday night
> > However, I agree with some other ideas,
> > 1. Eliminate the 802 plenary and shorten the Monday
> EC meeting.
> > Get everything done by 10 AM so the WG's can start by 10:30 AM.
> > 2. Eliminate the social.
> > 3. Go from one night for Tutorials. Alternatively, make a
> > deadline of 35 days before the meeting to commit to
> tutorials. That > way if we only have one night worth of
> tutorials we can give Tuesday > to the WGs. They would know
> 35 days in advance and could plan > accordingly. They could
> get their agendas out 30 days in advance.
> > Regards,
> > Steve
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